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Old 05-20-2017, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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"Burgh" is an old-fashioned name for an autonomous city in Scotland and Northern England, I know of a place called Jedburgh in Scotland, any other examples?
There's Sedbergh in Cumbria.

Plus hundreds of places called "-town" if we're counting those, my own town Skipton is just a contraction of "sheep-town" - you can guess what the traditional industry here was.

Now I think of it, eastern England in particular is full of places ending in -by, -sted/-stead etc, also meaning town.
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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There's Sedbergh in Cumbria.

Plus hundreds of places called "-town" if we're counting those, my own town Skipton is just a contraction of "sheep-town" - you can guess what the traditional industry here was.

Now I think of it, eastern England in particular is full of places ending in -by, -sted/-stead etc, also meaning town.
There's a lot of old Anglo-Saxon terms that are atatched to the end of place names, ton, ham, shire, etc.

I believe that "Ham" means village. So somewhere like Birmingham originally started out as a small Anglo-Saxon village.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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In southern Italy in particular, there are municipalities whose name end with "-poli", from the Greek polis. For example, Monopoli.
Yes because southern Italy was once the thriving Magna Graecia, and BTW you forgot to mention the most important of those "-poli" ending cities: Napoli, which originally was Neapolis i.e. New City.
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Old 05-20-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Manhattan!
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New York City would be another one. I think in NYCs case it's to distinguish it from New York State.
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Old 05-20-2017, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Can anyone tell me why Kaapstad is translated to Cape Town in the English language?
Stad = City.
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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Can anyone tell me why Kaapstad is translated to Cape Town in the English language?
Stad = City.
It's probably not a direct translation. Perhaps the English and Dutch just had separate names for it?
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:12 PM
 
Location: near Turin (Italy)
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Yes because southern Italy was once the thriving Magna Graecia, and BTW you forgot to mention the most important of those "-poli" ending cities: Napoli, which originally was Neapolis i.e. New City.
I didn't thought about that, my mistake.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Can anyone tell me why Kaapstad is translated to Cape Town in the English language?
Stad = City.
The ancient word Stad in Dutch or German meant town, those towns grew into cities. English borrowed from the German Stad to mean city or state, as in the German concept of city-state in medieval times (Berlin, Hamburg, Bremen). Cape Town functioned as a city-state from its founding in 1662 until the redrawing the political lines of modern South Africa into provinces.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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New York City would be another one. I think in NYCs case it's to distinguish it from New York State.
It's to distinguish it only when it's needed. The city's actual name is really just New York like the state and you address it as New York, New York.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:43 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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It's to distinguish it only when it's needed.
It's more complicated than that. Here in Texas there are specific laws concerning incorporating municipalities, and how they function. I live in the "City of Austin", I grew up in the "Village of Rollingwood".

Here is a short overview of the legal statutes in Texas, note section Sec. 5.902.

LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 5. TYPES OF MUNICIPALITIES IN GENERAL
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