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Old 06-22-2017, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I don't think he's ever visited the UK, like most of our critics. He just likes winding up the British posters on here, I can't see why else he would spend so much time talking about a country he dislikes.
It happens a lot to different countries. There was one poster here a few years ago who ranted and ranted against Canada.

Turns out they had only been to Winnipeg to visit relatives. One of our less " exciting " places, but no, in the second largest country in the world, seeing one city in the prairies was all of Canada.

 
Old 06-22-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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It happens a lot to different countries. There was one poster here a few years ago who ranted and ranted against Canada.

Turns out they had only been to Winnipeg to visit relatives. One of our less " exciting " places, but no, in the second largest country in the world, seeing one city in the prairies was all of Canada.
I think all the Anglo countries get it, if anything the poor old US gets it the worst! How anybody can find anything to 'rant' about when it comes to Canada is beyond me, Canada is a fabulous country.
 
Old 06-22-2017, 10:03 AM
 
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It happens a lot to different countries. There was one poster here a few years ago who ranted and ranted against Canada.

Turns out they had only been to Winnipeg to visit relatives. One of our less " exciting " places, but no, in the second largest country in the world, seeing one city in the prairies was all of Canada.
This forum is full of people who are experts about places they've never even visited.

To hear how some people describe the UK, you'd think it was a floating prison. As for Canada, a lot of people think the entire country is a frozen wasteland full of moose and polar bears
 
Old 06-22-2017, 12:09 PM
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It's pretty pathetic that you consider every single critic towards Britain to be nonsensical.

Get over yourself. Some people like it, some people don't.
Brits, (although not the only ones) especially those on this forum ate quite defensive and can't stand criticism to their beloved country.
 
Old 06-22-2017, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Plague Island
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Brits, (although not the only ones) especially those on this forum ate quite defensive and can't stand criticism to their beloved country.
I have noticed the same. Same story with the Spanish and French (amarow). Anglophobia, Francophobia bla bla, like a kindergarten.
 
Old 06-22-2017, 01:24 PM
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I have noticed the same. Same story with the Spanish and French (amarow). Anglophobia, Francophobia bla bla, like a kindergarten.
True true. All three very defensive/nationalist nations.
 
Old 06-22-2017, 01:31 PM
 
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True true. All three very defensive/nationalist nations.
You react just the same when people make ignorant statements about Portugal. As I've said, I'm personally not opposed to reasonable criticism, but some of the stuff being written here is ignorant or blatant trolling.

Saying Britain is a smelly floating prison, no different to George Orwell's Airstrip One, is comedic.
 
Old 06-22-2017, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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You react just the same when people make ignorant statements about Portugal. As I've said, I'm personally not opposed to reasonable criticism, but some of the stuff being written here is ignorant or blatant trolling.

Saying Britain is a smelly floating prison, no different to George Orwell's Airstrip One, is comedic.
Agreed - the UK does have comprehensive human rights such as the ECHR and most of the other things mentioned by the OP are simply not true. In terms of CCTV, Britain has 1.8 million cameras, but other countries also have lots of cameras, there are around 30 million in the US for example.

There is also a notable difference when it comes to the right of the state to take life in Europe (including the UK) and the US, indeed US Police are afforded much more protection if they shoot someone, whilst the state can also sentence you to death in the US, the death penalty being outlawed in ECHR countries including the UK.

European Convention on Human Rights - Wikipedia

In 1989 the US Supreme Court deemed it constitutionally permissible for police to use deadly force when they “reasonably” perceive imminent and grave harm. State laws regulating deadly force – in the 38 states where they exist – are almost always as permissive as Supreme Court precedent allows, or more so.

In Europe, the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) which has been signed by some 47 European Countries (including the UK), makes it abundantly clear in Article 2 that the Right to Life is paramount and that to take a life must be a last resort and that force should be no more than absolutely necessary, whilst there is also a positive duty to protect life. Killings excused under America’s “reasonable belief” standards often violate Europe’s “absolute necessity” standards.

So police in Europe (including the UK) have a duty to try all means in order to de-esculate situations and to use non-lethal force for instance when someone has a knife rather than resort to firearms. Indeed far more training is aimed at de-esculation in many European countries than is apparent in the US.

I think the Link to the Article below deals with many of these points and others more thoroughly, and is indeed one of more sensible articles I have read when it comes to the different policing style in the US and Europe.

Why do American cops kill so many compared to European cops?

Use of force, firearms and less lethal weapons - College of Policing APP



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Old 06-22-2017, 10:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Human rights are a term without any guarantee, individual rights stated in the US Constitution is law. Socialism as it exists in the UK and much of Europe is illegal here (eg. the NHS). As far as UK and European "laws", please, a group of failed states, now a Protectorate of the United States since 1945. You exist at US pleasure.
 
Old 06-22-2017, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Cannes
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I have noticed the same. Same story with the Spanish and French (amarow). Anglophobia, Francophobia bla bla, like a kindergarten.
Same story with Americans, Canadians, Brazilians, Swedish, Italians, Australians, Japanese...etc etc...Brilliant comment
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