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Old 07-14-2017, 03:52 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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It's pretty difficult to stay calm when a judge is forcibly taking your kid from you and sentencing him to death. I know a lot of people who would do much worse.
The judge is NOT sentencing the kid to death, the kid is GOING TO DIE whatever, how many times do we have to point this out to you before it gets through your skull?
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The judge is NOT sentencing the kid to death, the kid is GOING TO DIE whatever, how many times do we have to point this out to you before it gets through your skull?


It seems that medical machinery can now prevent a normal natural death in such circumstances and people with severe brain damage and persistent vegatatve states are now being forced to live.

In Charlies case he is terminally ill and will die withnin the medium term, however the case does highlight that quite the opposite to what some American preachers and politicians are saying is happening, and people are not being “forced to die”, they are being forced to live, often for decades with no cure and no prospect of any real improvement.

Is being on a ventialator and having food pumped in to your body really a good quality of life and one we should be forcing people to live.
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Old 07-14-2017, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Airstrip 1, Oceania
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The child has a genetic defect, Winterfall. He was doomed from the moment he was conceived. I would have hoped that after all these months, his parents would have come to terms with this and would be willing to let him go peacefully. I suspect they are continually being given 'encouragement' and false hopes by religious nuts and other know-nothings and this is why the agony is being endlessly prolonged. It's a shame.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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USA has universal healthcare: it's called go to the ER and if you are poor don't pay and then the next person with insurance pays $500 for a 1 hour visit to pay for everyone who went and had no insurance. By law an ER or first responder can not turn away someone because they lack insurance. I think the system of universal healthcare in most First World nations works a lot better.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Good news

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Old 07-14-2017, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The judge is NOT sentencing the kid to death, the kid is GOING TO DIE whatever, how many times do we have to point this out to you before it gets through your skull?
If that was true why are they now letting doctors examine the Child?

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And besides this is not something for the government to decide.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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Stop it. In the US the insurance decides what happens to you and that is after considering if that will be profitable. Guess what, health care is not math.

Last edited by Botev1912; 07-14-2017 at 01:37 PM..
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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If that was true why are they now letting doctors examine the Child?

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And besides this is not something for the government to decide.
Oh its true, I tell you what do you want a 'wager' on it? I bet you the child dies, wanna take me up on it? I tell you what the only issue is here, how long can we prolong the child's suffering? And the government aren't deciding anything, that would be the courts.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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If that was true why are they now letting doctors examine the Child?

https://mobile.twitter.com/jaketappe...53264977199104


And besides this is not something for the government to decide.
It's worth looking at the quality of life of other sufferes of similar conditions such as Rose Flower or Bailey-Rose Bickerton, in both of which cases the parents want to be allowed to let their children die with dignity, as for Charlie he is terminaly ill and has 6 to 9 months.

'There will never be a cure in her lifetime': Mum of girl suffering disease like Charlie Gard tells of agonising decision to let her die - Mirror Online

Mother's plea for daughter's right to die - BBC News

And of course there was equally pointlessly interfered in the Canadian Joseph Marcachi case.

Joseph Maraachli case - Wikipedia
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Old 07-19-2017, 03:07 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The US Doctor who visited Great Ormond Street Hospital and Charlie Gard has failed to convince British Doctors and experts.

Charlie Gard doctors remain 'unconvinced' after flying visit by US neurosurgeon who said he could treat him - Telegraph
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