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Old 07-20-2017, 10:02 AM
 
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How is visiting the US hard?
For some countries, maybe. But not for the majority of tourists.
Yes, for the "subhuman Muslims and eastern europe".

Even their best friends from Israel need visa, you'd get about the rest.
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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Yes, for the "subhuman Muslims and eastern europe".

Even their best friends from Israel need visa, you'd get about the rest.
I don't get why everyone is so afraid of Eastern Europe When was the last time a Polish or a Serbian person has done anything bad in the US? I bet the crime rates for Eastern Europeans in the US are minuscule, but people are falling for the same old stereotypes
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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I don't get why everyone is so afraid of Eastern Europe When was the last time a Polish or a Serbian person has done anything bad in the US? I bet the crime rates for Eastern Europeans in the US are minuscule, but people are falling for the same old stereotypes
It is politics, no logic to it. It is the same reason Mexicans, despite being the source of the largest number of illegals in the US, still can obtain a visa easier (5.5% refusal rate) than Romanians (11.4% refusal rate).
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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I don't get why everyone is so afraid of Eastern Europe When was the last time a Polish or a Serbian person has done anything bad in the US? I bet the crime rates for Eastern Europeans in the US are minuscule, but people are falling for the same old stereotypes
I read somewhere that 9 million Americans are of Polish ancestry, that's more than the Jews or Italians! Despite the association that jews or italians are more common.
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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It was clear that N. Korea was one of them!
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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"United States" - Donald Trump
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Old 07-20-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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Yes, for the "subhuman Muslims and eastern europe".

Even their best friends from Israel need visa, you'd get about the rest.
The fact that you need a visa does not make it a hard place to visit. If you read the article it is about much bigger barriers. If your US visa is denied, then you are probably in a certain risk group, cannot provide enough evidences that you are willing to return home, or you did not behave during stays in the past.
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Old 07-20-2017, 11:53 AM
 
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The fact that you need a visa does not make it a hard place to visit. If you read the article it is about much bigger barriers. If your US visa is denied, then you are probably in a certain risk group, cannot provide enough evidences that you are willing to return home, or you did not behave during stays in the past.
I've never tried but the requirements alone sound like bullsh*t:

1. 200$ non refundable payment;
2. schedule interview in the embassy with months in advance;
3. need to speak english even as a tourist...;
4. proof that you don't have HIV.

For other countries visa is just elementary formality, you can even get it through 3rd parties without signatory, nor payment, nor anything.
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Old 07-20-2017, 12:20 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I find it hard to take the article seriously if he thought getting a visa for Russia was difficult.
Generally, I would agree, and actually, the author did, too, but he said it was his most recent trip that he felt made it difficult. Apparently some of the protocol has changed, in response to the US requiring excessive information on the application form for US visas. Still, all it is, is an application form. Once you fill it out, the process is simple.

Many people around the world have this idea that getting a visa for Russia travel is a bureaucratic nightmare, but in most cases, this is simply due to inexperience and some kind of odd fear of Russia, or of its bureaucracy, or lingering images of the Soviet Union. And even back then, getting to Russia was pretty simple, as long as you could afford it, or had relatives there. So it's basically ignorance.
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Old 07-20-2017, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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Generally, I would agree, and actually, the author did, too, but he said it was his most recent trip that he felt made it difficult. Apparently some of the protocol has changed, in response to the US requiring excessive information on the application form for US visas. Still, all it is, is an application form. Once you fill it out, the process is simple.

Many people around the world have this idea that getting a visa for Russia travel is a bureaucratic nightmare, but in most cases, this is simply due to inexperience and some kind of odd fear of Russia, or of its bureaucracy, or lingering images of the Soviet Union. And even back then, getting to Russia was pretty simple, as long as you could afford it, or had relatives there. So it's basically ignorance.
True. Of course, you need an invitation, then fill out some forms, pay visa center fee and consulate fee, but you can just hire a visa service agency, send them your passport and a filled out form and they will do everything. You do not have to show up in person and you have to provide only basic information about your job, income, health insurance, etc.
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