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Old 11-02-2017, 02:11 AM
 
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No. Organised religion created the tax system. Religious authority is much older than government authority. Organised religion is also the first welfare office.

Hammurabi might've most of the judiciary authority, but the religion had the taxation.

Taxation is neither bound to a central government. Tributes to a warlord was taxation though he had no other control of a neighbouring tribe.
I say all governments take taxes. You say tax system was not created by government.
No logic connection at all.

BTW maybe not all ancient cultures had very well organized religions (I do not know). At least according to what I learned in class, religion has never been crucial in ancient China, though it existed.
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Old 11-02-2017, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Plague Island
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Here is a list of countries by tax rates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_tax_rates

It looks like countries that pay the highest taxes have also the happiest citizens. They are happy because these societies are not only prosperous but also with high equality, social trust and honesty of government. They enjoy long paid vacations, zero out-of-pocket costs of health care, zero or low tuition costs and quality public services for all, etc...
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/the-...-in-taxes.html
So if those 'very happy' countries lowered their taxes, their 'happiness' would also go down, no?

To me, it seems that people in those 'very happy' countries are fine with their govs. taking a large portion of their salary and playing sugar daddy with it, 'taking care' of them so to speak. If Big Daddy got your back, you can have a more carefree existence. Not something I personally approve of but to each their own.
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Old 11-02-2017, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Here is a list of countries by tax rates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_tax_rates

It looks like countries that pay the highest taxes have also the happiest citizens. They are happy because these societies are not only prosperous but also with high equality, social trust and honesty of government. They enjoy long paid vacations, zero out-of-pocket costs of health care, zero or low tuition costs and quality public services for all, etc...
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/the-...-in-taxes.html
There are plenty of unhappy countries with extremely heavy tax burdens as well. High tax =/= happiness.
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Old 11-02-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Many African countries are like this. If you don’t live in Lagos or FCT you don’t pay taxes in Nigeria. Take in mind Lagos and FCT make up roughly 10-15% of the population yet pay roughly 70% or more of all taxes in Nigeria. This is because the other parts of the country not dominated by oil can’t enforce their tax system well seeing as they don’t even know the number of people who live in their area let alone tax them.
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Old 11-02-2017, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I say all governments take taxes. You say tax system was not created by government.
No logic connection at all.
Not in 4000 BC. That was what I was referring to.
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Old 11-02-2017, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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Many African countries are like this. If you don’t live in Lagos or FCT you don’t pay taxes in Nigeria. Take in mind Lagos and FCT make up roughly 10-15% of the population yet pay roughly 70% or more of all taxes in Nigeria. This is because the other parts of the country not dominated by oil can’t enforce their tax system well seeing as they don’t even know the number of people who live in their area let alone tax them.
Why don’t they know the number of people in their area?
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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We all love to complain about taxes, but I agree that when you see your tax dollars working, it removes a bit of the sting. My only complaint is not so much about paying tax, but waste in government.

I really feel that sometimes people who live in Canada forget what their taxes give them, from all levels of government. They just take it for granted that the streets will be repaired, lighting will be upgraded, sewers maintained and improved.
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Old 11-02-2017, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Of coure we do, through 3 levels of government. Though Australia is no where near "the most taxed country on earth" as some people here like to say. Paying tax is not something i worry about.
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Old 11-02-2017, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Why don’t they know the number of people in their area?
Not all babies are born in Hospitals and due to our system being setup to like it is their is political incentive for certain populations to be higher or lower.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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Not all babies are born in Hospitals and due to our system being setup to like it is their is political incentive for certain populations to be higher or lower.
All babies don’t need to be born in the hospital for the government to have a census system.
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