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Yeah I get that they're less densely populated - but they extend a lot farther. New York's continuous urban area is a lot larger than London - take a comparable area in the UK and you have lots of towns dotted all over the place.
While probably not the same level, the NYC region has plenty of old towns scattered within it. The Northeast coastal area is the most like England in that sense. Compare NYC to Chicago. Go out of Chicago there's far fewer towns and cities with a separate history from Chicago and then in most directions except to Milwaukee, farmland.
When did I ever say that? New York and London are nearly identical in population.
London population: 8.308 million
New York population: 8.337 million
London "area" population (according to the Greater London Authority): 21 million
New York combined statistical area population: 23 million
I am not picking at London. I actually love London but the hyperbole coming from you Londerners in regards to importance is ridiculous. There seems to be a new ranking every month that is either commission by the city of London or written by London property consultants i.e. Knight Frank, which seem to desperately want to sway public opinion into believing that London is clearly #1 in everything. You will never see such rankings originating from the U.S. or New York. From reading the web, one city looks very confident with its status and one city is wailing everywhere screaming how great it is. It's getting a bit stale now. But it's expected as the U.S. blew past U.K. in terms of wealth and importance many decades ago, and since the U.K. doing better now, it appears to be orchestrating a huge campaign to boost the U.K. and London's profile.
That's quite strange because the figures I am usually presented with on forums like this generally show London having a far smaller metro population. So even though you present no links to back up your assertion I do agree that London's Metro population is not that far behind NYC's.
At least we agree on something.
If any city is confident with it's status it's London, indeed we certainly don't need to go to the NYC Forums and start making assertions in the same way some individuals have done in respect of the London and UK Forums. Indeed I can't even recall visiting the NYC Forum and have no real interest in doing so, however in terms of the ST Rich List it is generally considered as a very worthy and accurate list in both the UK and throughout the world.
Oh, and according to the latest "Global Financial Centres" index, New York is now the #1 Financial Capital of the world.
So New York's aggregate score is even higher.
Remember two years ago when the popular media labelled London the new fashion capital of the world? The fashion industry mostly laughed at the suggestion because it was patently obvious to anyone who worked in the industry that NY was the undisputed capital of fashion. Fashion week revolves around the NY schedule, its fashion industry is much more prestigious and influential.
The same holds true in finance, except conversely. The GFCI may label NY to be the new financial capital of the world, but anyone who actually works in the industry knows that it's London; and that the global financial system and the trading day for financial hubs from Chicago to Shang Hai to Tokyo revolve around the working day in London.
Remember two years ago when the popular media labelled London the new fashion capital of the world? The fashion industry mostly laughed at the suggestion because it was patently obvious to anyone who worked in the industry that NY was the undisputed capital of fashion. Fashion week revolves around the NY schedule, its fashion industry is much more prestigious and influential.
The same holds true in finance, except conversely. The GFCI may label NY to be the new financial capital of the world, but anyone who actually works in the industry knows that it's London; and that the global financial system and the trading day for financial hubs from Chicago to Shang Hai to Tokyo revolve around the working day in London.
Who laughed exactly? Anyway surely Milan is the fashion capital of the world. I don't know anybody outside the US that thinks New York is!
Who laughed exactly? Anyway surely Milan is the fashion capital of the world. I don't know anybody outside the US that thinks New York is!
I'm pretty sure it was Diane von Furstenberg, among others, if I can dig up the quotes from two three years ago.
NY lacks the deeply reputable historical european brand names in Milan and Paris, but as a commercial industry and trend setter it is eminently bigger and more influential. Fashion week is very much busier with more shows, more industry employees, more venues, specialized infrastructure (the garment center) etc. And of course Vogue is headquartered there.
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When did I ever say that? New York and London are nearly identical in population.
New York is much larger than London. Yes, the city propers have semi-similar population, but NYC is less than half the physical size of London, yet still has greater population.
And everyone knows city propers are useless as a direct comparison. This is especially true because in the case of London the technical municipality is Greater London, which is not a city in the American context.
financial hubs from Chicago to Shang Hai to Tokyo revolve around the working day in London.
If you think "Chicago, Shanghai and Tokyo" are major financial hubs, then you don't know finance. Tokyo, maybe, but still far behind HK and Singapore these days. Shanghai, huge stretch, light years behind HK and Singapore, and Chicago? Just no. Nothing but derivatives trading. No investment banking or private equity.
Who laughed exactly? Anyway surely Milan is the fashion capital of the world. I don't know anybody outside the US that thinks New York is!
Paris and New York are, by far, the most important fashion hubs. Milan is a distant third. London is a distant fourth.
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