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A Kiwi would need to be aiding and abetting criminal or pretty serious anti social activities to be detained and deported "due to association".
It's probably not in the news over there -but the worst cases involve people with no criminal record, and no gang membership or ongoing association, for over 20 years.
Is it really that problematic if countries are in multiple economic unions? Conflict of interest?
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Originally Posted by Bakery Hill
Agreed; what the issue? Australia already has CER with NZ, AUSFTA with the US, is a member of APEC, and was pursuing the TPP.
I don't mean to come across as condescending but this just shows how easily people from the US are confused about the wider world.
1. The EU is more than a trade pact, it's a political union and the EU forbids any member state to conduct trade deals on their own! Every trade agreement has to be done through the EU and any of the member states and even regional entities within those countries have a veto and in the past that veto has been frequently exercised.
2. Following on from point 1, the sheer suggestion of correlating APEC with the EU is pretty preposterous.
3. Just to go back to the whole unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, to say they're accountable to the European parliament has proven to be a joke. The parliament has no legislative powers and on top of that the amount of tax payers money they waste to-ing and fro-ing from Brussels to Strasbourg because the French won't accept one sole parliament building in Belgium just shows the dysfunction of an organisation that aims to form a Federal Republic.
Is it really that problematic if countries are in multiple economic unions? Conflict of interest?
Perfect reply to your question already given by Pueblofuerte.
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Originally Posted by Pueblofuerte
The EU is more than a trade pact, it's a political union and the EU forbids any member state to conduct trade deals on their own! Every trade agreement has to be done through the EU and any of the member states and even regional entities within those countries have a veto and in the past that veto has been frequently exercised.
An EU country cannot negotiate a free trade deal alone. The end goal of the EU is a full political union where member nations are more or less like states in a federation similarly to the US.
Fear of losing sovereignty and the Canadian way of life. The US has 9 times the population. This fear is made more potent since it's a lot easier to traverse between the US and Canada than it is NZ and Australia.
Air fares are cheap to fly between New Zealand and Australia. However there are ten times as much New Zealanders living in Australia than New Zealand. Plus one does not need a return air ticket flying to those destinations provided you are either a Australian or New Zealander. Even so there not been a major shift in population, as these days as much people are moving from Australia from New Zealand, as people living New Zealanders moving to Australia.
I doubt there be a major population shift, as both of the economies are strong between USA and Canada. Besides I doubt that far too Americans would want to move to Canada as it is too cold for them.
I don't mean to come across as condescending but this just shows how easily people from the US are confused about the wider world.
1. The EU is more than a trade pact, it's a political union and the EU forbids any member state to conduct trade deals on their own! Every trade agreement has to be done through the EU and any of the member states and even regional entities within those countries have a veto and in the past that veto has been frequently exercised.
But these comments are not about the EU, or even UK while it remains in the EU.
Last edited by Bakery Hill; 12-24-2017 at 08:10 PM..
I don't mean to come across as condescending but this just shows how easily people from the US are confused about the wider world.
1. The EU is more than a trade pact, it's a political union and the EU forbids any member state to conduct trade deals on their own! Every trade agreement has to be done through the EU and any of the member states and even regional entities within those countries have a veto and in the past that veto has been frequently exercised.
2. Following on from point 1, the sheer suggestion of correlating APEC with the EU is pretty preposterous.
3. Just to go back to the whole unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, to say they're accountable to the European parliament has proven to be a joke. The parliament has no legislative powers and on top of that the amount of tax payers money they waste to-ing and fro-ing from Brussels to Strasbourg because the French won't accept one sole parliament building in Belgium just shows the dysfunction of an organisation that aims to form a Federal Republic.
We are talking about a hypothetical scenario here. Post Brexit, post EU. No one is equating the EU with an organization like APEC or NAFTA.
I guess it would be an OK idea but I don't think there is a real push for it especially from Canada.
Canada does little trade with Aus/NZ and not much with UK either so isn't a big priority. We have far bigger fish to fry with trying to renegotiate NAFTA with Trump.
I guess it would be an OK idea but I don't think there is a real push for it especially from Canada.
Canada does little trade with Aus/NZ and not much with UK either so isn't a big priority. We have far bigger fish to fry with trying to renegotiate NAFTA with Trump.
UK is Canada’s fourth biggest trading partner....Australia is way down the list at 18th...
Top five are ...USA ...China......Mexico........UK ......Japan
USA by far the most. Canada is their biggest trading partner too.
Would be beneficial to lessen reliance on USA...especially with Trump’s buy only American,
where does that leave their little buddy Canada
Pretty sure that the UK as a bad faith actor currently undergoing a separation with the EU makes this an unlikely scenario for the near future.
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