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Old 12-22-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Finland
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One another index - the Good Country.

"We're not making moral judgments about countries. What we mean by a Good Country is something much simpler: it’s a country that contributes to the greater good of humanity. A country that serves the interests of its own people, but without harming - and preferably by advancing - the interests of people in other countries too.

What the Index does aim to do is to start a global discussion about how countries can balance their duty to their own citizens with their responsibility to the wider world, because this is essential for the future of humanity and the health of our planet."

https://goodcountry.org/index/about-the-index
https://goodcountry.org/index/results

So practically it's about how much good a country does for humanity divided by GDP and population.

The top 10 goodest countries are:

1) Netherlands
2) Switzerland
3) Denmark
4) Finland
5) Germany
6) Sweden
7) Ireland
8) United Kingdom
9) Austria
10) Norway
...
14) Canada
25) USA
65) Russia
76) China

Yay, GG Northern Europe!
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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Very biased at least. I think even India has much more contributions to the world than those tiny welfare countries in Europe.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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Very biased at least. I think even India has much more contributions to the world than those tiny welfare countries in Europe.
What would the bias be?

I also strongly disagree with India, a country struggling to be good to its own people.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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Meh, another one of those pseudo-something-rankings.

Not to bash the Nordic countries but to put things into perspective, in medical and scientific research and innovation for example, the US has done way more good than almost anybody else on this planet but w/e.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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HAHAHA, actually look at the factors used:


https://goodcountry.org/index/source-data


This one tells me all about their agenda:


19. Birth rate: Population birth rate (according to World Bank as negative indicator).
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Not to bash the Nordic countries but to put things into perspective, in medical and scientific research and innovation for example, the US has done way more good than almost anybody else on this planet but w/e.
Sure it has. But on the other side of the coin it has also started several senseless wars.

Not that I'm on high moral ground here. Finland gets minus points in "international conflict" and big minus points in "arms exports"

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HAHAHA, actually look at the factors used:


https://goodcountry.org/index/source-data


This one tells me all about their agenda:


19. Birth rate: Population birth rate (according to World Bank as negative indicator).
You don't think that the world is beginning to be dangerously overpopulated?

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Old 12-22-2017, 11:59 AM
 
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Sure it has. But on the other side of the coin it has also started several senseless wars.



You don't think that the world is beginning to be dangerously overpopulated?

Have you seen the resulting problems with countries that have not been able to replace their population? Look at the current crisis in Japan.


Granted, some third world countries have the opposite problem, but that doesn't mean that countries that aren't having babies anymore are somehow considered virtuous.
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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No, India would rank India at the very top by the virtual of 1.4 billion votes. Europe overall is not big and is deeply divided into many "nations", many are smaller than the state Rhode Island in the US.

Risk of terrorism should be a big factor.
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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What would the bias be?

I also strongly disagree with India, a country struggling to be good to its own people.
So a country cannot be "good" because it is poor?
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Old 12-22-2017, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Have you seen the resulting problems with countries that have not been able to replace their population? Look at the current crisis in Japan.


Granted, some third world countries have the opposite problem, but that doesn't mean that countries that aren't having babies anymore are somehow considered virtuous.
Yeah, that's what makes it complicated. Some countries should make more babies, others can't feed all their own

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So a country cannot be "good" because it is poor?
No, I didn't mean that. I meant that though the caste system is de jure banned, it still partly exists de facto.

But of course it's easier to be good if you're rich.
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