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I didn't say what specific ideologies made them separate, I just said it was there LOL
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But you were responding to me, and I did narrow it down to a specific ideology:
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Otherwise, the USA has been the most stagnantly and singled-mindedly free-market capitalist country on earth, without even a viable media representation by a voice opposed to that ideology.
Quite funny but a generalisation, I think. my husband's family in Sicily are all working in professional roles and when we were there we found it hard to see some of them as they were so busy. A couple are travelling constantly. I know the youth unemployment is extremely high in the south which is a real shame.
But the example of the northerner was getting up very late by our standards. When I travel by train to babysit for my daughter on Fridays, I have to get the 6 22am train to their place so they can get to work by 8 30.
Southern Italians in Australia, and I think in the US and Canada, have been extremely hard working and successful immigrants. So it is not genetic, but something in the southern environment, I would think.
yeah, I was being tongue-in-cheek. Actually the video is made by people from Calabria making fun of themselves, and one of them is excellent at faking a milanese accent in the first part of the video. Their youtube channel is hilarious.
Still, the contrasts are stark, but as you say it has very much to do with social and economic contexts and nothing to do with genetics (obviously).
The wake up time is more related to the home-work distance which I suppose is much greater in Australia on average. That said I still have to wake at 5:30 some days so I can be at work before 8, so not everyone works near home here either.
I didn't bring that up. Read the thread, and you will see Acajack did.
As for Quebec, I have visiting since 1967, and have family and friends there, and MY family is from there.
WE are talking about groups with VERY different ideologies. Quebeckers aren't outliers on the rest of Canada when it comes to the important things. Celebrating or not celebrating Thanksgiving isn't going to divide a country.
My point is simply that it's easier to find pockets of resistance to such things outside of Quebec than it is inside of it.
There is a greater consistency of views all across Quebec. On a whole range of issues.
And I don't think it's just due to the rest of Canada being larger and more populated.
I still don't believe the differences are as great as you think. Where Quebec differs, besides language and culture, is in some wanting separation. The important stuff, democracy, social progressiveness, etc are pretty much the same.
I still don't believe the differences are as great as you think. Where Quebec differs, besides language and culture, is in some wanting separation. The important stuff, democracy, social progressiveness, etc are pretty much the same.
That said everywhere has blips.
I don't think there are either, but that poll on same-sex marriage actually proves my point.
For starters, the cross-Canada number includes Quebec (which is presumably 20-25% of the total "Canadian" respondents), so that drives the number of supporters in the entire country up a bit.
Not sure if people would consider it stastically significant, but if you drill down in the data (available at the same link), you see that there is almost a ten-point difference in support between English-speaking and French-speaking Canadians on the issue: 82% (francophones) vs. 73% (anglophones). Of course, not all francophones live in Quebec and not all anglophones live outside Quebec, but it still gives a pretty good idea.
If you look at the regional data, Quebec is highest at 80% support, and the Maritimes (which are majority anglophone but have the highest percentage of francophones outside Quebec) are second at 78%.
Alberta OTOH is lowest at 68%, or 12% lower than the level of support in Quebec.
But sure, you're right that the issue has majority support all across Canada. (It would be interesting to see if there was a further breakdown if areas like southern Alberta didn't have majorities opposed, though.)
I don't think there are either, but that poll on same-sex marriage actually proves my point.
For starters, the cross-Canada number includes Quebec (which is presumably 20-25% of the total "Canadian" respondents), so that drives the number of supporters in the entire country up a bit.
Not sure if people would consider it stastically significant, but if you drill down in the data (available at the same link), you see that there is almost a ten-point difference in support between English-speaking and French-speaking Canadians on the issue: 82% (francophones) vs. 73% (anglophones). Of course, not all francophones live in Quebec and not all anglophones live outside Quebec, but it still gives a pretty good idea.
If you look at the regional data, Quebec is highest at 80% support, and the Maritimes (which are majority anglophone but have the highest percentage of francophones outside Quebec) are second at 78%.
Alberta OTOH is lowest at 68%, or 12% lower than the level of support in Quebec.
But sure, you're right that the issue has majority support all across Canada. (It would be interesting to see if there was a further breakdown if areas like southern Alberta didn't have majorities opposed, though.)
Not sure if it proves your point though, because the assumption seems to be that the support is the same across Canada outside of Quebec. A fairer comparison might be province to province. If Quebec bumps up Canada's numbers, Alberta bring them down.
If we look at which provinces first introduced same sex marriage before it became legal nationally, Quebec comes in 3rd. Ontario and BC are first and second. Noticeably absent are Alberta, Prince Edward Island, Nunavut and the NWT.
I do note that Quebec had civil unions in 2002 and some of the dates could do more with politics. This was the same year Quebec granted same sex couples the right to adopt. 12 AFTER BC did.
So my point is that there really isn't much of a difference to be able to claim that Quebec and the ROC have VERY different ideologies when it comes to same sex marriage.
Another stat that is high, that shows that Canadians are on the same page, is that well over 90 percent say they have no issue with a politician being gay.
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