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How can you put Sao Paulo and Manila in the same category as Lagos and Dhaka
Sao Paulo actually has a great deal in common with Lagos - they both have their nice areas (very nice actually) and they both have millions living in abject poverty, and they both are extremely dangerous after dark.
Sao Paulo actually has a great deal in common with Lagos - they both have their nice areas (very nice actually) and they both have millions living in abject poverty, and they both are extremely dangerous after dark.
Define "exremely dangerous"?
Bombings? Mass Shootings?
What are some really developed cities in otherwise developing countries?
Cape Town has a large chunk of first world-looking areas with gorgeous seaside mansions that look like they could be in Orange County CA. The rest of the country is living in third world conditions
Moscow and St. Petersburg in Russia come to mind. Both are really modern and organized, while the rest of the country clearly lags a long way behind
Istanbul in Turkey seems super modern and developed, with beautiful architecture and tree-lined streets. Meanwhile the rest of the country is stuck in the 12th century
Not too educated about China, but seems like many cities would fit this bill as well (Shenzhen, Shanghai, Guangzhou)
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Originally Posted by Fabio SBA
China crossed already the barrier of developing economy, and São Paulo is a typical third world city, having much more in common with Lagos, Dhaka or Manila than with New York, Paris or Tokyo.
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Originally Posted by MustermannBB
Russia and/or China should not be considered "developing countries". I mean come on!!!!
How can you put Sao Paulo and Manila in the same category as Lagos and Dhaka
Brazilians #1 sport is not football Davy, really is badmonth its country specially for foreigners
Average Brazilians only put their foot in first world countries never been in Africa or southeast Asia.
When I was in Angola, Nigeria and including South Africa I was really impressed with the life who people have in their big shantytows… Its not like in Brazil where people have water on tap, light, internet, garbage colection (in most case free) in the favelas… Is a level of poverty much more extreme. Any way Sao Paulo is very third world, countryside cities of Sao Paulo and in the south like Curitiba, Joinville, Florianopolis are closer of the first world (middle class areas much bigger than poor areas)
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Originally Posted by Vacanegro
Sao Paulo actually has a great deal in common with Lagos - they both have their nice areas (very nice actually) and they both have millions living in abject poverty, and they both are extremely dangerous after dark.
abject poverty in my opnion is when someone strugles for daily meals, or live in shanty houses without sewage, water on tap, light, garbage collect etc ... Not in briks houses with all basic amenities. Favelas in Brazil (and in South America) is more an urbanistic problem, people are not starving there, most of them are low skilled workers of rich cities, live there is the way that the low skilled migrants found to live cheap, result of the lack of social houses.
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abject poverty in my opnion is when someone strugles for daily meals, or live in shanty houses without sewage, water on tap, light, garbage collect etc ... Not in briks houses with all basic amenities. Favelas in Brazil (and in South America) is more an urbanistic problem, people are not starving there, most of them are low skilled workers of rich cities, live there is the way that the low skilled migrants found to live cheap, result of the lack of social houses.
São Paulo has a lot of places like this in the extreme southern and eastern edges. Most of people living in São Paulo don't realise, but a lot of people in places such as Lajeado or Parelheiros are in situation of extreme poverty, in many cases depending on the help of humanitarian organisations.
São Paulo has a lot of places like this in the extreme southern and eastern edges. Most of people living in São Paulo don't realise, but a lot of people in places such as Lajeado or Parelheiros are in situation of extreme poverty, in many cases depending on the help of humanitarian organisations.
Extreme poverty in São Paulo, people living with only 2 dollars day is 2%, dysfunctional people very difficult insert in any kind of job who all countries have, can´t be compared with countries with endemic extreme poverty.
Off course in super rich social countries these people is totally supported by the state with house, amenities and money WITHOUT WORKING but in Brazil is given only the minimum universal income of 200 reais (USD 60) and the middle classe STILL complains a lot
Idk about Sao Paulo but Manila definitely belongs in the same category as Lagos and Dhaka.
In terms of quality of life, I was somewhat ruthless with both São Paulo and Manila; according to the last Mercer report, São Paulo ranks in the 121st position - one ahead of Istambul; and Manila is in the 136th position, one ahead of Shenzhen and Nanjing; while both Lagos and Dhaka are below the 200th position.
But all of these cities has much in common: very populous, overcrowded, with a dysfunctional urban planning and with some typical third-world problems like uneven pavements and a mess of overhead electrical cables. It's true that São Paulo still has some first-world looking areas, but the impoverished areas are far more numerous and populous. I was told by a work mate that a middle-class neighbourhood in São Paulo looks like a poor neighbourhood in Chicago.
How can you put Sao Paulo and Manila in the same category as Lagos and Dhaka
Yeah that's an insult to both Sao Paulo and Manila; both of them have incredibly nice business areas full of skyscrapers, as well as very large middle class neighborhoods. Lagos looks horrible with most of the city having garbage burning on the streets. Not even the worst areas of Sao Paulo can compare to Lagos
Does that mean to you a country has to match the US to be considered not Third World? Is the US the minimum benchmark for not being Third World?
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It was your post that I was replying to that was comparing China to America.
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