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Neither would I, and I lived in Edmonton for three years. I never lived in Ottawa, but friends there told me that Ottawa has no nightlife, because Hull (now Gatineau) has it all. They just headed across the river, to where the fun was. Ottawa had some great places (D'arcy McGee's on Sparks Street is a favourite of mine), but under Ontario law back in the day, they couldn't be open as late as similar places in Hull, so if you were looking for late-night fun, you didn't stay in Ottawa.
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The nightlife in Hull (Gatineau) was emasculated a couple of decades ago, precisely due to all the trouble caused by those Ottawa people coming over the bridges every night. We had a bit of a Frozen Tijuana thing going on here.
The nightlife scene in Hull is only modestly starting to recover, and at the moment the nightlife in Ottawa is clearly more dynamic than ours - which is normal since Ottawa is almost four times larger.
So in 2019 it's not accurate to say Ottawa has "no" nightlife. Sure it's not on the level of Montreal, or even a smaller place like Quebec City. But if you're a student, Ottawa's is a pretty good place to be if you want to have fun. (That's one criticism I'd make of it - it's a bit too focused on the university crowd. Not many places to go out for people who are over 30.)
It's actually on the cusp of being one of the anglosphere's and even the western world's great cities.
Many Torontonians would argue that it's already fully there but I think there are so many of these comments that it's still got a way's to go in terms of building a unique character and soul.
Personally I love Toronto. It's a great city, but I agree. Specially the last part of your comment.
LOL, Poor Toronto. We see people writing this on the forum over and over again.
Well Canadians seemed surprised that we liked Ottawa so much and wished we had had longer there. But then we like going to Canberra. In Toronto we ended up at the ice hockey museum, which is a long way from our normal sphere of interest! But what does Toronto have to offer? Tall buildings, restaurants, we probably missed important things.
Oh, I think you'd probably find quite a few Canadians for whom the idea of moving to Australia is very appealling.
It's not so true the other way around - though yes many Aussies are interested in coming to Canada temporarily (working holidays, skiing at Whistler, general leisure trips, etc.)
Yes, and I am one of them
I agree that there are a lot more Canadians interested in moving to Australia than vice versa if you did a poll. It is mainly due to the pleasant Australian climates
This is not meant to diss Australia's diversity which is real, but I am not sure that its foreign-born figure (of which maybe a third are British, Irish, Kiwi, American or White South African people who fit in rather seamlessly) even if 5-7% higher than Canada's, actually trumps having a foreign-ish self-contained nation-within-a-nation that speaks a different language right smack in the middle and that makes up about one quarter of the country.
Canada is more diverse than Australia and been longer at practising diversity as a policy than Australia.
For example there are no Little Portugal's in Sydney to my knowledge, no Caribbean Towns as in Toronto.
British born remain far the dominant overseas born group.
Canada has the luck of having a French part which differs substantially to the Anglo part and itself diverse in other cultures.
Canada's closeness to USA adds to the geographic difference. It losses probably on climate (for many) but the heat is far from an enticement for all in Australia, during its height.
Yeah. Dislike of Australia and of Australians, while I am sure it exists, can't be anything but a tiny phenomenon.
Indifference to mild/considerable dislike at some of the antics of Aussies in parts of London was fairly common in my time there. If you lived close to an Aussie club or pub more so the case. The language was too often obscene. (that's just the women) and rather intolerant world views not to say somewhat racist views too often expressed. Not sure if still relevant or how relevant these days with some famous Aussie pubs now gone....
Munich found them disagreeable in antics during to Beer Festival as well. Unable to manage their large beer consumption and behaving badly. To many in Asian countries likewise in places like Bali and Thailand.
In more recent times, I've heard but not witnessed the Croatian Coast often incurs poor Aussie behaviour.
Canada is more diverse than Australia and been longer at practising diversity as a policy than Australia.
For example there are no Little Portugal's in Sydney to my knowledge, no Caribbean Towns as in Toronto.
British born remain far the dominant overseas born group.
Canada has the luck of having a French part which differs substantially to the Anglo part and itself diverse in other cultures.
Canada's closeness to USA adds to the geographic difference. It losses probably on climate (for many) but the heat is far from an enticement for all in Australia, during its height.
It's great that areas in Sydney are not really defined by race/nationality. That just helps to segregate the city. Only a part of town defined by its presence of residents is "Chinatown". But there are more that just one Chinatown in Sydney. There is a very high Chinese community and even more authentic in places like Hurstville, Eastwood, Strathfield, Burwood and Chatswood.
And definitely you can find something like Little Portugal in Sydney, it is called Petersham, there is a high Portuguese community where you can find pastel de nata, portuguese chicken etc. There is a large Portuguese event: https://www.innerwest.nsw.gov.au/exp...irro-portugues
There is also a high presence of people who came from Malta, and the Balkans. I would say that they are both very multicultural countries.
Anglo Canada can't compete on cities. Melbourne and Sydney are gorgeous, thriving, sunny, diverse, beautiful cities with massive arts and sports cultures.
The built environment in both Melbourne/Sydney is far more historic and impressive than Toronto/Vancouver, which are dull, drab, brutalist eyesores or glass-clad monoscapes.
Montreal competes favorably with Melbourne and Sydney, but alone can't
outweigh both.
In terms of landscape, Australia has Tasmania, Uluru, Great Barrier Reef, Whitsundays, Queensland Rainforests, Blue Mountains, Great Ocean Road, Kakadu. Great Barrier Reef alone is a Top 5 World Natural Wonder. If I were Aussie, I'd likely live somewhere between Gold Coast and Rainbow Beach. Queensland is a gem.
Canada has Niagara Falls, Banff National Park, Pacific Rim National Park and then a bunch of very desolate parks like Gros Morne or Haida Gwaii. There are beautiful places, but nothing that can compete with Queensland, much less all of Australia.
That said, both countries have large swathes of nothingness. Well over half of each country is desert (just sand/rock vs. snow/ice).
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