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Old 09-18-2020, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Sydney Australia
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Sometimes I say that DH was born in Italy but came to Sydney as a little child. That seems to cover most of what people want to know. When we are in Europe we just say we are Australian. Occasionally people delve deeper, saying that he does not look Anglo etc.

So I think the answer for the OP depends on the context.
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Old 09-18-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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If you recognize yourself as an american, and other americans recognize you as an american, then you are an american.
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Old 09-19-2020, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Sometimes I say that DH was born in Italy but came to Sydney as a little child. That seems to cover most of what people want to know. When we are in Europe we just say we are Australian. Occasionally people delve deeper, saying that he does not look Anglo etc.

So I think the answer for the OP depends on the context.
It's not unusual for an American to not look Anglo at all.

It would be hilarious to meet a white Japanese, though.
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Old 09-19-2020, 07:10 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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If you recognize yourself as an american, and other americans recognize you as an american, then you are an american.
By the way, is it common for Brazilian citizens to call themselves “American”?

How prevalent is this in South America? I’ve never heard of this in real life.
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Old 09-19-2020, 09:34 AM
 
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It was not his responsibility to convince the group. He could have said "Believe it or not, I am from USA."
He is not 'from' the US just because he has been naturalized.

What is your shame of your roots about and this desperation 'to be American'?
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Old 09-19-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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If you recognize yourself as an american, and other americans recognize you as an american, then you are an american.
I get off the plane in Brazil and call myself Brazilian - that makes me Brazilian? On my way to the airport.
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Old 09-19-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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By the way, is it common for Brazilian citizens to call themselves “American”?

How prevalent is this in South America? I’ve never heard of this in real life.
The problem with the American controversy in Latin America is that the English Word “American” and the Spanish/Portuguese word “Americano” are false friends. They mean different things.

I guess that in Brazil “Americano” is becoming more increasingly used to refer to the citizens of the USA (Fabio can tell better), but it’s not necessarily this way in several Spanish speaking countries.

In English, American = demonym of the USA
In Spanish, Americano = demonym of the Americas

However, the word “Americas” has been devoid of a proper demonym in English, and the word “America” is still part of several terms that don’t refer to the USA (North America, South America, Latin America, etc.), so it’s natural that it provokes confusion and -considering the world influence of the English language as the international language- some sense of appropriation in the countries where “Americano” means belonging to the Americas.
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Old 09-19-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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You are an citizen so hence you are perfectly entitled to call yourself American.
Agree completely!
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Old 09-19-2020, 02:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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My fallback position if the locals get a little hostile is to say I’m Canadian.
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Old 09-20-2020, 04:11 AM
 
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I disagree. The individual can identify as whatever they like but if the group rejects that identity then this identity bears no relevance in the society. Sure, people can agree that that person actually is what they identify as, but that's just a charade.

When I was in university doing Erasmus, there was this dude that said he was from America. When asked from which corner of the US do people speak like you because he sounded nothing like an American, he blushed immediately. Dude was from Pakistan, spoke with a heavy accent, got his citizenship quite recently. He was an American in the eyes of exactly 0 people in the exchange program.
In which country did this happen?
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