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Old 06-04-2021, 07:19 AM
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It is looking like the top 10 economic powers will be:
Brazil
China
Germany
India
Indonesia
Japan
Russia
Turkey
United States
Vietnam

Only 3 are developed (U.S. / Japan / Germany). The rest are emerging powers!
The problem with such predictions is new technology and the fact the world may not rely on cheap manufacturing from the Far East or other countries.

It may be cheaper to move manufacturing back to the US as automation advances, and the US and many other countries have cheap plentiful energy.

Further up the chain in terms of more luxury products or financial services will be less effected.

However to predict an increasingly changing economic landscape is becoming increasingly difficult.

Relying on low wages and costs may not be enough to elevate an economy as it is now and the same applies to population size.

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Old 08-04-2021, 06:38 PM
 
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I hope so.
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Old 08-04-2021, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I don't think India will become a superpower any time soon. Most of their territory has a challenging climate.

They're prone to droughts and food insecurity. Their climate and topography is part of why they produce food inefficiently compared to more developed economies. India has a huge population, but too many of them are locked up in agriculture. India can't be a superpower if most their people are farmers.

The temperate forest civilizations are the most productive right now. The temperate forest regions have the best food security and a reliable water supply. The "1st world" countries are mostly temperate forest regions with warm water ports.

This is why China is on the path to become a superpower (if they aren't one already). China is a temperate forest nation with plenty of warm water ports. Just like the U.S.
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Old 08-05-2021, 02:45 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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India is already a 'superpower', it is one of a handful of countries that has nuclear warheads, India could trigger the destruction of the world as we know it if it wanted to..............is that 'power' enough?
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:30 AM
 
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India IS a super power.

20% of the human race is Indian and has a GDP that is growing like there is no tomorrow, and with a population that size, it will be almost impossible for other countries to catch up (Only China).

Plus it has atomic weaponry.

Maybe India is not as wealthy as say Austria, but it is certainly more powerful.
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Old 08-07-2021, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Plague Island
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India is already a 'superpower', it is one of a handful of countries that has nuclear warheads, India could trigger the destruction of the world as we know it if it wanted to..............is that 'power' enough?
Pakistan also has nukes. Would you qualify it as a superpower too then? Iran and North Korea are superpowers in the making?
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Yeah Australia I more powerful than Austria people here think Austria is Australia like if said yo from Austria they start saying G'day mate shrimp on the Barbie and we think what like are putting a shrimp on a Barbie like a a real Barrie doll.
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Old 08-07-2021, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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India a superpower? I would say no.
From my anecdotal, non professional opinion, there are two ways to fast track a country's economy from third world status to developed country status;

1) A highly focused, dictatorial regime that can ruthlessly direct the country's economic activities to achieve development goals. This is essentially what happened in South Korea and Taiwan which were ruled by army generals during most of their economic booms. This also happened to a lesser degree in Japan (which was ruled by the US for a few years after the second world war) and also Singapore, which is not technically a dictatorship but many will tell you that their long time premier Lee Kuan Yew had authoritarian attributes to his rule. China with the CCP also has this covered.

2) A culture that organically embraces the qualities needed for a first world economy. The countries of Western Europe slowly over many centuries were able to evolve the political and social constructs necessary to encourage economic growth (helped to some degree by pillaging colonies in the third world, but that's a whole other topic). This knowhow was transmitted to the European immigrant colonies of the US, Canada, Australia etc.

India does not have either one of these in place. Remarkably for a third world nation, it has retained a democracy since its independence. And as we all know, democracy is messy, seldom structured or organized, and when you have many different ethnic, religious and social groups (that often hate each other), gaining the approval needed to embark on those crucial projects can be well nigh impossible.

So this fact combined with the other issues people have mentioned, corruption, desertification, never ending blood feud with Pakistan would all suggest that India will remain "the country of the future" for a very long time.
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Old 08-07-2021, 06:55 PM
 
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India a superpower? I would say no.
From my anecdotal, non professional opinion, there are two ways to fast track a country's economy from third world status to developed country status;

1) A highly focused, dictatorial regime that can ruthlessly direct the country's economic activities to achieve development goals. This is essentially what happened in South Korea and Taiwan which were ruled by army generals during most of their economic booms. This also happened to a lesser degree in Japan (which was ruled by the US for a few years after the second world war) and also Singapore, which is not technically a dictatorship but many will tell you that their long time premier Lee Kuan Yew had authoritarian attributes to his rule. China with the CCP also has this covered.

2) A culture that organically embraces the qualities needed for a first world economy. The countries of Western Europe slowly over many centuries were able to evolve the political and social constructs necessary to encourage economic growth (helped to some degree by pillaging colonies in the third world, but that's a whole other topic). This knowhow was transmitted to the European immigrant colonies of the US, Canada, Australia etc.

India does not have either one of these in place. Remarkably for a third world nation, it has retained a democracy since its independence. And as we all know, democracy is messy, seldom structured or organized, and when you have many different ethnic, religious and social groups (that often hate each other), gaining the approval needed to embark on those crucial projects can be well nigh impossible.

So this fact combined with the other issues people have mentioned, corruption, desertification, never ending blood feud with Pakistan would all suggest that India will remain "the country of the future" for a very long time.
Superpower does not mean prosperous rich democratic

The soviet union was a superpower while killing and imprisoning people left and right and having millions of its citizens living really hard lives.

The Us is a super power and it's quite violent, full of inequality. 15% of kids in America live in poverty and have suffered from hunger.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/11/mill...is-winter.html

super power and highly developed country is not the same thing.

European immigrants to the USA are overrated.......... the Us is a superpower because of its natural resources, optimal geographic location and the fact it was the only country that participated in WWII that was in top shape after the war. The rest of the war was in ruins!
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Old 08-08-2021, 02:33 AM
 
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Pakistan also has nukes. Would you qualify it as a superpower too then? Iran and North Korea are superpowers in the making?


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Like it or not if they have nukes they can end the world as we know it, I'd call that pretty 'powerful' no?
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Old 08-08-2021, 03:18 PM
 
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Like it or not if they have nukes they can end the world as we know it, I'd call that pretty 'powerful' no?
Excuse me, India still hasn't figured out toilets.
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