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View Poll Results: Who do you support?
Palestine 58 28.02%
Israel 149 71.98%
Voters: 207. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-18-2023, 07:08 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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all the way.
absolutely.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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well it looks like Hamas were responsible not Israel, the reports are still coming out but the recording seems to indicate that is was Hamas's fault.
The mainstream media should be very shamed of themselves for jumping on the Hamas bandwagon this morning and reported that it was the IDF without proper verification. Appalling.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:28 AM
 
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The mainstream media should be very shamed of themselves for jumping on the Hamas bandwagon this morning and reported that it was the IDF without proper verification. Appalling.
The BBC were first out of the gate stating it was Israel such is their bias, they have since proved to be wrong.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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The BBC were first out of the gate stating it was Israel such is their bias, they have since proved to be wrong.
Exactly. That is beyond effed up.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:33 AM
 
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Hamas would have ceased to exist if history was different.
Hamas will go the way of the Nazi regime, and Hamas will cease to exist.
Extremists and terrorists (such as the views expressed in your own posts) who support Nazis and support Hamas who are blinded by hate will crop up here and there.

And they are destined to self-destruct.
as the Nazis did. and as Hamas does..

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Old 10-18-2023, 07:36 AM
 
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Had Israel been a good world citizen and engaged in honest political solutions and ceased the expansion of illegal settlements, stopped the settlers from shooting and killing the rock throwers, it would have kept its citizens safe from the savagery and also the savagery it is conducting now on the Palestinians. Branding the world as anti semite will not silence it. Truth will always stand up and speak.
You clam to be against suffering of injustice. On the contrary, your words above are an attempt to justify acts of suffering and injustice. You are not being intellectually honest here. You don't get it. Instead you seem to hang on to this warped view of moral equivalency where illegal settlements justifies mass murder.

You have been posting here quite a bit, now it seems you are trying to backpeddle into "I am just for an end to violence". That's not what you posted here before. I have not seen one sentence from you condemning the kidnapping, torture, rape, and mass murder of civilians by Palestinians. Yes they are the Hamas, but they are Palestinians. Instead you are using words, not to bring peace, but to bring violence. Your own words:
"Israeli's attempt to annihilate the people..."
"Condemned for total devastation..."
"Acts of Oppression..."

From this article
https://columbiaindependent.org/ther...l-equivalence/

We are dreading the upcoming weeks, where innocent Gazan lives will be lost as Israel attempts to eradicate Hamas once and for all. But what other choice does Israel have when Hamas prioritizes Israel’s death over Palestinian life? As a sovereign nation state, Israel has the responsibility to secure the safety of Israeli citizens, and the world now sees the gruesome extent to which Hamas undermines that safety. Hamas epitomizes evil, and the Palestinian movement must rid itself of its diabolical influence to prevent future loss of life – both Israeli and Palestinian.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:43 AM
 
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Had Israel been a good world citizen and engaged in honest political solutions and ceased the expansion of illegal settlements, stopped the settlers from shooting and killing the rock throwers, it would have kept its citizens safe from the savagery and also the savagery it is conducting now on the Palestinians. Branding the world as anti semite will not silence it. Truth will always stand up and speak.
your talk of good citizenship and honest politics is yet again utterly ignorant of actual history, and conveniently ignores that (a) Hamas and West Bank leadership consistently REJECT all two-state solutions and (b) will settle for nothing less than a country with no Jews at all and (c) consistently adhere to and broadcast their guiding imperative death to all Jews.

the blind hatred you harbor, the smug blaming, the across the board support and approval you have for savagery, is disgusting. that you equate a government bent on annihilation of the Jews with kids throwing rocks shows how utterly black the heart is which holds that view.

you equate "taking out the Nazis" and "taking out Hitler" with "being Hitler, being the Nazis"
that reveals the truth of what you stand for.
the only voice you air is hate, and the views you align with are pure bloodthirsty incitement to violence.

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Old 10-18-2023, 06:50 PM
 
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and of course those who continue to speak out in favor and support and help for Hamas, please be the first ones to open your own homes and your own schools and your own neighborhoods to any and all Hamas terrorists, Hamas supporters.

so that your actions match your words.
there is no better way to show your support, and to, well be with the very people you have such an affinity for and pour out your caring. Yes, bring them into your own homes. welcome them into your own families. with open arms.
be with your people as the champions for justice you so boldly claim to be.


right?

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Old 10-18-2023, 07:24 PM
 
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because that's another very valid way of looking at and evaluating where you stand on this, the topic of this thread.
Who would you rather have living in your home, living in your neighborhoods, pouring into your schools:

displaced Israelis....or.....displaced Palestinians

that is a sincere question.
you could have your very own Pay-For-Slay program in your own town, on your own street. And you can walk around celebrating when someone is murdered by handing out trays of sweets and smiling and posting selfies online.

because that's what you are in favor of, right?

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Old 10-18-2023, 08:17 PM
 
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and as the saying goes,
be careful what you ask for, because well you just may well get it
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