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View Poll Results: Who do you support?
Palestine 58 28.02%
Israel 149 71.98%
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Old 11-06-2023, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Land has always been a possession of the strong, wealthy and those who conquer. Q. What land (borders) has remained in control of it's indigenous people throughout history? A. none

It has never been about land.
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Old 11-06-2023, 07:12 AM
 
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Land has always been a possession of the strong, wealthy and those who conquer. Q. What land (borders) has remained in control of it's indigenous people throughout history? A. none

It has never been about land.
The "illegally occupy land" issue for Israel/Palestine has always been a red herring issue, a distraction. "Land" doesn't bring prosperity and opportunities, which is what these young angry unemployed Palestinians need. That's why the innumerable peace initiatives by the West have never worked, they always focus on land/illegal settlements.
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Old 11-06-2023, 07:19 AM
 
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The PLO govern the West Bank, Hamas run Gaza , the PLO aren’t exactly in the good books of Hamas either
You said it, when Hamas took over rule from Fatah (PLO) their was a "purge" of the old leadership. Hamas handled it very efficiently - they threw Fatah leaders off of rooftops.

Fatah/PLO/PA will likely take over rule of Gaza once Hamas is destroyed. It's ironic, the same group that in its lineage massacred Jewish athletes in Munich in 1972 is actually the moderate Palestinian political party to deal with.
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Old 11-06-2023, 08:23 AM
 
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Land has always been a possession of the strong, wealthy and those who conquer. Q. What land (borders) has remained in control of it's indigenous people throughout history? A. none

It has never been about land.
Is that how it is Tenn? Do you own property? is it safe? can someone with a gun can tomorrow drive you out and call it his own? Is that how it works where you live?
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Old 11-06-2023, 08:25 AM
 
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Land has always been a possession of the strong, wealthy and those who conquer. Q. What land (borders) has remained in control of it's indigenous people throughout history? A. none

It has never been about land.
If that is true what claim do Jews have to the land they occupied?
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Old 11-06-2023, 10:17 AM
 
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Land has always been a possession of the strong, wealthy and those who conquer. Q. What land (borders) has remained in control of it's indigenous people throughout history? A. none

It has never been about land.
Pick out a small guy on you’re street and take over his house, kick him around a little if he protests, if the government moves to defend the little guy, see how you get on quoting “ land has always been the possession of the strong “
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Old 11-06-2023, 10:20 AM
 
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pick out a small guy on you’re street and take over his house, kick him around a little if he protests, if the government moves to defend the little guy, see how you get on quoting “ land has always been the possession of the strong “
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Old 11-06-2023, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Crooked Pennsylvania
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I thought Americans held private property rights as sacred ?

Perhaps you are fine with someone confiscating your land , demolishing your house , building a new one and inviting their cousin from Brooklyn over ?, afterall, their great , great , great , great , great times ten ancestors probably lived on the same land?
Didn't the Irish do just that when they flooded these shores during their great famine a while back?
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Old 11-06-2023, 11:36 AM
 
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Default Numbers of the Toll of War on Palestinians

Today
9,770 Palestinians Killed in Gaza
1,400 Number of people killed in Israel
250,000. Number of israelis displaced
1.5+ Million. Number of Palestinians Displaced in Gaza
Source: Gaza Health May bistro and Israeli officials
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Old 11-06-2023, 12:50 PM
 
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Today
9,770 Palestinians Killed in Gaza
1,400 Number of people killed in Israel
250,000. Number of israelis displaced
1.5+ Million. Number of Palestinians Displaced in Gaza
Source: Gaza Health May bistro and Israeli officials
What about all the Israelis that have been killed by Palestinian terrorists since 1948 and Palestinian Jews that been killed by Arabs since 1920?
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