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View Poll Results: Who do you support?
Palestine 58 27.88%
Israel 150 72.12%
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Old 11-06-2023, 10:20 AM
 
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pick out a small guy on you’re street and take over his house, kick him around a little if he protests, if the government moves to defend the little guy, see how you get on quoting “ land has always been the possession of the strong “
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Old 11-06-2023, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Crooked Pennsylvania
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I thought Americans held private property rights as sacred ?

Perhaps you are fine with someone confiscating your land , demolishing your house , building a new one and inviting their cousin from Brooklyn over ?, afterall, their great , great , great , great , great times ten ancestors probably lived on the same land?
Didn't the Irish do just that when they flooded these shores during their great famine a while back?
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Old 11-06-2023, 11:36 AM
 
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Default Numbers of the Toll of War on Palestinians

Today
9,770 Palestinians Killed in Gaza
1,400 Number of people killed in Israel
250,000. Number of israelis displaced
1.5+ Million. Number of Palestinians Displaced in Gaza
Source: Gaza Health May bistro and Israeli officials
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Old 11-06-2023, 12:50 PM
 
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Today
9,770 Palestinians Killed in Gaza
1,400 Number of people killed in Israel
250,000. Number of israelis displaced
1.5+ Million. Number of Palestinians Displaced in Gaza
Source: Gaza Health May bistro and Israeli officials
What about all the Israelis that have been killed by Palestinian terrorists since 1948 and Palestinian Jews that been killed by Arabs since 1920?
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Old 11-06-2023, 12:52 PM
 
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Pick out a small guy on you’re street and take over his house, kick him around a little if he protests, if the government moves to defend the little guy, see how you get on quoting “ land has always been the possession of the strong “
Are you talking about the illegal settlements or the West Bank and Gaza as a whole. In terms of the "occupied territories" (which are actually not all occupied) I don't agree with the "land is the possession of the strong", but more like "hey you tried to kill us in 1948, 1967, and 1973, you lost, these are the consequences". Also note that Jordan could have reclaimed the West Bank, they chose not to.

In terms of illegal settlements. Yes that is an issue but to an average Palestinian it does not really impact them. Jewish settlement are like 2% of the West Bank and mostly carved out of the desert. I don't think you literally had Palestinians houses taken or bulldozed. Maybe it took some grazing land but otherwise Palestinians are urban dwellers. That's why I am saying in an above post that it is a "red herring" issue to the peace process.

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Old 11-06-2023, 01:54 PM
 
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Default Israelis demand Netanyahu's resignation for his failure.

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TEL AVIV, ISRAEL —
On Saturday night, thousands of Israelis took part in mass protests in Israeli cities calling for release of the 241 hostages being held by Hamas.
In Jerusalem, protesters gathered in front of the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's residence, calling him to resign in light of the security failure over the Oct. 7 Hamas attack.
https://www.voanews.com/a/thousands-...amas%20attack.
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Old 11-06-2023, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Is that how it is Tenn? Do you own property? is it safe? can someone with a gun can tomorrow drive you out and call it his own? Is that how it works where you live?
It did, at one time. Land is not an infinite possession it's a possession of the strong, wealthy and/or a product of conflict. What is mine today won't necessarily be mine tomorrow. Ask the Ukrainians or the Armenians or any other nation. ALL land belonged to someone else at one time... historical fact. Only Israel can claim otherwise.

This was and never will be about land for the Palestinian gypsies. There is nothing 'sacred' about Gaza or Israel for the Palestinians. The conflict is just about hating Jews and killing them. Nothing more. The Middle East has tons and tons of land just like or better than Gaza, with no one living on it.
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Old 11-06-2023, 06:29 PM
 
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the idea of taking a “side” in this mess is complete bs. This war is the israeli government vs the hamas dictatorship, with all the little people caught in the middle getting killed. After it subsides, the same bad actors will still be in power, and they will continue to use their peoples’ deaths to keep their respective propaganda alive.
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Old 11-06-2023, 07:06 PM
 
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It did, at one time. Land is not an infinite possession it's a possession of the strong, wealthy and/or a product of conflict. What is mine today won't necessarily be mine tomorrow. Ask the Ukrainians or the Armenians or any other nation. ALL land belonged to someone else at one time... historical fact. Only Israel can claim otherwise.

This was and never will be about land for the Palestinian gypsies. There is nothing 'sacred' about Gaza or Israel for the Palestinians. The conflict is just about hating Jews and killing them. Nothing more. The Middle East has tons and tons of land just like or better than Gaza, with no one living on it.
bingo. exactly.

they come right out and say it.
believe them.
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Old 11-06-2023, 07:20 PM
 
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Today
9,770 Palestinians Killed in Gaza
1,400 Number of people killed in Israel
250,000. Number of israelis displaced
1.5+ Million. Number of Palestinians Displaced in Gaza
Source: Gaza Health May bistro and Israeli officials
since you vocally defend and support the terrorist activity of Hamas (which is the Islamic Resistance Movement, a sect of the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt), here is a map and article showing increase in Fatalities from Militant Islamist Violence in Africa, which in this Feb. 2023 report show

Surge by Nearly 50 Percent
By the Africa Center for Strategic Studies

February 6, 2023

Continuing a decade-long upward trend, violent events linked to militant Islamist groups in Africa increased by 22 percent while fatalities surged by 48 percent over the past year.


https://africacenter.org/spotlight/f...ly-50-percent/

i find this chilling and disturbing that you continue to (a) speak out in favor and support of terrorism and atrocities, (b) remain silent and refuse to condemn the terrorism and atrocities, and (c) speak out against those who seek to put an end to extremist violence and atrocities.

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