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View Poll Results: Who do you support?
Palestine 58 28.02%
Israel 149 71.98%
Voters: 207. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-06-2023, 09:50 PM
 
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Hamas clearly is a problem and must be routed out and defeated. On the other hand, it is hard to see the blunt force actions of the IDF as being on any sort of moral high ground or even if it is the best course of action. I'm reading more on the topic but a more targeted counterterrorism campaign is suggested as a better alternative, to what is being carried out now which entails the slaughter of over 10K Palestinians, many who are children and the death count is growing fast.

More on this here for those interested.

https://www.vox.com/2023/10/20/23919...asion-strategy
I am sure Israel is capable of every kind of targeted counterterrorism campaigns. It is not lack of knowledge, it is determined savagery, which also Israel is fully capable of. It markets its skills and weaponry, for a good price of course, to tyrants of other states who have minority populations.

THE Palestine Laboratory
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Old 11-06-2023, 09:53 PM
 
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You're quoting or referencing sources with ZERO credibility..
Why? Show data that contradicts WHO.
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Old 11-07-2023, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Really all around terrible business. People are so easily manipulated by religious zeal.
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Old 11-07-2023, 02:06 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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I dont believe the numbers of dead as given by the health ministry which is controlled by Hamas, they could be true but they could also be propaganda, how do they know?
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Old 11-07-2023, 02:10 AM
 
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It did, at one time. Land is not an infinite possession it's a possession of the strong, wealthy and/or a product of conflict. What is mine today won't necessarily be mine tomorrow. Ask the Ukrainians or the Armenians or any other nation. ALL land belonged to someone else at one time... historical fact. Only Israel can claim otherwise.

This was and never will be about land for the Palestinian gypsies. There is nothing 'sacred' about Gaza or Israel for the Palestinians. The conflict is just about hating Jews and killing them. Nothing more. The Middle East has tons and tons of land just like or better than Gaza, with no one living on it.
America has even more unused land yet many Americans will defend their property with a “ cold dead fingers “ zeal ( I agree with them )

I’ve said it before, a surprisingly large number of Americans are willing to discard their cherished principles surrounding private property when it comes to this issue of Israelis dispossessing Arabs of their homes

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Old 11-07-2023, 02:19 AM
 
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What about all the Israelis that have been killed by Palestinian terrorists since 1948 and Palestinian Jews that been killed by Arabs since 1920?
Or the Arabs killed by European settlers prior to 1948 ?

We can all cherry pick
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Old 11-07-2023, 02:20 AM
 
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HAMAS is 100% responsible for every single death on both sides. Fully responsible.
No it isn’t , that’s pure ideological reasoning, if Israel decides to nuke the strip , would you gormlessly claim “ it was Hamas fault “ ?

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Old 11-07-2023, 02:29 AM
 
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It did, at one time. Land is not an infinite possession it's a possession of the strong, wealthy and/or a product of conflict. What is mine today won't necessarily be mine tomorrow. Ask the Ukrainians or the Armenians or any other nation. ALL land belonged to someone else at one time... historical fact. Only Israel can claim otherwise.

This was and never will be about land for the Palestinian gypsies. There is nothing 'sacred' about Gaza or Israel for the Palestinians. The conflict is just about hating Jews and killing them. Nothing more. The Middle East has tons and tons of land just like or better than Gaza, with no one living on it.
We dont live in the age of the strong takes what it wants. We live in a relatively more civilized time when reparations for past plunder is demanded. The Jews are the invaders, an invasion facilitated by the same white colonists who colonized the rest of the world and plundered and impoverished the people. There is nothing sacred about land. Life is sacred, all life is sacred.
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Old 11-07-2023, 05:32 AM
 
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Why do we have two threads on essentially the same topic in the same sub-forum (actually 3)?
Someone is spamming.
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Old 11-07-2023, 05:37 AM
 
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Or the Arabs killed by European settlers prior to 1948 ?

We can all cherry pick
Why don't you represent some numbers? The Arabs targeted the Jews. The Palestinian Jews were targeting the British to get them to honor their commitment to establish a Jewish Homeland as per the 1917 Balfour Declaration.
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