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Old 07-13-2021, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I'm sorry but the smugness here is quite breathtaking, especially in light of Canada's treatment of its Indigenous and First Nations communities. At least you can watch the fishbowl of the US and talk about all of the country's problems without doing an examination of Canada's obvious shortcomings.

Transit in Canada isn't that amazing - Toronto can't decide whether it wants to invest in transit to Scarborough or redirect funds elsewhere. When is the subway line to UBC going to be completed? Canada is still overwhelmingly auto centric. Wage to housing costs ratio is terrible in Vancouver, despite the low property taxes.

Who said that Americans have lost their faith in government? (what a sweeping generalization for a country of over 330 million folks). The Feds are admired despite the criticisms (valid or not). Regional areas such as the New England states pride themselves on a functional and responsive government and that area of the country has a quality of life equal if not better than Canada's while being a part of the world's largest economy.

There are plenty of Americans that love the good aspects of the States (diversity, dynamism, politeness) and want a stronger social safety net (which doesn't automatically mean that we want our social safety net to model Canada's...which is lacking compared to ANZ and European counterparts - Ontario just passed a form of sick pay, which has been policy in many US localities for years).

Canada is not my north star as the ideal country. I like the flexibility of the Scandinavian economics paired with a strong social safety net. None of these countries have the economic might of the US, which is a distinct advantage and one of the primary reasons why I want to stay in the States.
Smugness? No. I was responding to another smug post against Canada.

Problems, of course Canada has it's own problems, but most of the post response was to answer the points made by that poster.

Toronto is not Canada, and I didn't say amazing transit, I said good. Toronto is currently building the largest transit project in Canada. Vancouver is currently building that subway line as far as Arbutus, the plans to extend to UBC are there, and more funding was just announced. Compare the transit in Vancouver to Seattle, a city many like to compare to Vancouver.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ticle_left_1.1

Speaking of Toronto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZDZtBRTyeI

Housing costs in Vancouver are what they are, like they are in SF, NYC, LA etc.

I also didn't say all Americans , but I think you know that, lost faith in their government, I said " Canadians haven't lost faith in our SYSTEM of government".

Many Americans feel their voices aren't heard at the federal level. That lobbying, and money talks. That it takes billions to run for president. Many feel the SYSTEM is broken to a point and needs reform.

As for Ontario, which again is not all of Canada, was trying to TOP UP existing federally mandated sick days. It wasn't starting from zero. Each province can add onto to the federal program, but not take away.

https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/remune...-sick-eng.html

The point of my post, was to counter, once again, this idea that Canadians are suffering under high taxes, gas prices, and prices of consumer goods.

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Old 07-13-2021, 10:58 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The point of my post, was to counter, once again, this idea that Canadians are suffering under hight taxes, gas prices, and prices of consumer goods.
I'm just saying that is what Americans who travel to Canada generally experience.

Also, the average house price seems much higher in Canada than the United States as well.
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Old 07-13-2021, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I'm just saying that is what Americans who travel to Canada generally experience.

Also, the average house price seems much higher in Canada than the United States as well.
Yes, it probably is, but private home ownership in both countries is almost exactly the same.


Once tourists do the conversion of currency, they realize that a lot of times, they get a good bang for their buck.
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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To answer the original question posed by this thread, I'd say yes - the US is probably the most conservative country in the "anglosphere."
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Old 07-14-2021, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Various
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As a Canadian I have always been surprised how easy it is to manipulate Americans to vote against their best interest
As a human i have always noted that those who presume to know what is in the best interest of others are almost invariably wrong.
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Old 07-19-2021, 03:54 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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At least we don't look at Canada and make ridiculous subjective generalizations.
Of course you do.

This entire thread of "Is the USA the most conservative country in the Anglosphere" completely relies on generalizations. Generalizations about a society maybe overexaggerated but they usually spring from some form of common belief............they don't just pop out of no where. You can also look at a lot of US laws which are very socially conservative often due to the US's strong religious influence on her politics.
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