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Old 07-08-2021, 03:21 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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The question is - What motivates some people to pursue these “finer” things in life in spite of the costs?

While other people could care less about them even if they are available for free at a local library?
COULD care less??
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Old 07-08-2021, 04:22 PM
 
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What would be interested to know as well is why NYC has many "European tendencies." Now that I remember, I have some friends who invited me to a "wine and cheese" party. I also have met Spaniards and French who told me about this types of evening discussions/get togethers.

Obviously, there might be groups of people in other American towns and cities who do these but by and large it seems most people weren't interested. Some friends I know would just rather go to PF.Chang's or another chain restaurant, even if they have money..etc
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Old 07-08-2021, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Australia
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The question is - What motivates some people to pursue these “finer” things in life in spite of the costs?

While other people could care less about them even if they are available for free at a local library?
It is partly social pressure, I think. If the people you spend time embrace these things you feel some pressure to do the same.

As an example, one group I belong to includes Italian culture and the group leader is a member of about three choirs. Thus we have quite a bit of exposure to Opera in this group. I happen not to enjoy Opera, my musical tastes running much more to jazz. But I have certainly learnt more about Opera and if I was in Italy, might be tempted to go to an event.

Take coffee, Aussies are shocking coffee snobs. It is just something that has spread over the years and led to chains like Starbucks closing stores and being more in the market where there are international tourists (when we have them, certainly not now)

Even with sport, I feel obliged to watch the Wimbledon women’s final this weekend and our favourite Aussie player is playing. I just feel that I must!
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Old 07-09-2021, 03:11 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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It is partly social pressure, I think. If the people you spend time embrace these things you feel some pressure to do the same.

As an example, one group I belong to includes Italian culture and the group leader is a member of about three choirs. Thus we have quite a bit of exposure to Opera in this group. I happen not to enjoy Opera, my musical tastes running much more to jazz. But I have certainly learnt more about Opera and if I was in Italy, might be tempted to go to an event.

Take coffee, Aussies are shocking coffee snobs. It is just something that has spread over the years and led to chains like Starbucks closing stores and being more in the market where there are international tourists (when we have them, certainly not now)

Even with sport, I feel obliged to watch the Wimbledon women’s final this weekend and our favourite Aussie player is playing. I just feel that I must!
German Opera is the most insufferable, for instance the Ring Cycle by Richard Wagner consists of four parts, three of which last over four hours.

The (German) Teutonic reputation for brutality is well-founded. Their operas last three or four days. And they have no word for "fluffy". - Captain Blackadder, Blackadder Goes Forth, Episode 4.

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Old 07-13-2021, 01:11 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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German Opera is the most insufferable, for instance the Ring Cycle by Richard Wagner consists of four parts, three of which last over four hours.
I do like German opera. But we have to learn how to appreciate it.
They are not all the same, however; the german works by composers before Wagner and even the earlier works by Wagner have similarities with both french and italian traditions.
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Old 07-13-2021, 01:48 PM
 
Location: USA
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I do like German opera. But we have to learn how to appreciate it.
They are not all the same, however; the german works by composers before Wagner and even the earlier works by Wagner have similarities with both french and italian traditions.
Not all German opera is tedious. Consider "Die Zauberflöte," and "Die Entführung aus dem Serail" by Mozart.
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Old 07-13-2021, 10:57 PM
 
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The question is - What motivates some people to pursue these “finer” things in life in spite of the costs?

While other people could care less about them even if they are available for free at a local library?
A lot of it is due to exposure. There’s also an element of snobbishness to it as well, where those who appreciate “fine arts” think of themselves as highly sophisticated. They use it in order to look down upon others. If you do a bit of digging around, you’ll find that many of these “connoisseurs” are just there for the ride.

Many people are simply not interested in these types of activities as they don’t appeal to them. Why sit through an endless opera when I can go to a rock concert? Why watch a ballet performance when I could go to a monster truck event? If that’s what someone wishes to do, then they shouldn’t feel bad about it.
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Old 07-13-2021, 11:12 PM
 
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Cities with "culture" have, first, to be in countries with culture. For example the film capitals are Buenos Aires, Rome, Mumbai, Moscow, Berlin, because they are associated with the film industries associated with their countries.
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Old 07-14-2021, 02:14 AM
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Cities with "culture" have, first, to be in countries with culture. For example the film capitals are Buenos Aires, Rome, Mumbai, Moscow, Berlin, because they are associated with the film industries associated with their countries.
London has a massive film industry, from Hollywood blockbusters through to small independent films.
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Old 07-14-2021, 11:01 PM
 
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The real question is: Why isn't Gary Indiana the culture, nightlife, arts and cuisine capital of the world??
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