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This is just getting silly. Everyday there is some sort of new thread about how China is awful. None of it is based in any fact. These threads are popping up everywhere in multiple sections. They appear to be started by individuals who to see the world as a struggle between good and evil and fail to see the faults in their own country or acknowledge that their opinions are driven by insecurities. “China isn't going anywhere. America is no saint. Can we please move on to something else? Mods, please start sending these threads to the Politics and Controversy section. They appear more appropriate for that section.
I fully agree. One can do very well in China as long as they don't condemn the government there. It is like Singapore as it is not a democracy, but as long as Singapore is allied to USA their type of government is not condemned.
China is the biggest threat to the free world today. This covid mess is really all their fault. It may even be intentional. They destroyed the lives of millions around the world and no one seems to want to hold them accountable. We should be isolating them economically. The US should be demanding its companies begin to pull out of China. We should be working in concert with other western powers to leverage massive economic pressure upon them. We should also cancel all debt to them as reparations for covid damages. Every other nation on earth that owes China money should do the same thing.
The persecution of Tibetans, the Muslim concentration camps and the treatment of Hong Kong citizens are all also very serious issues. Also let’s not forget the 8 year olds building all those cheap goods and the unchecked pollution the Chinese unleash upon the world. The CCP is a problem. China is not a good world player. It is time the world stops putting up with their behavior. The key to stopping them in a peaceful manner is using economic leverage against them. The world needs to stop buying their cheap garbage. There are plenty of places where things can be manufactured economically AND ethically. Here in the US we have a trade agreement that makes Canada and Mexico our preferred trading partners. I would like to see our government offer incentives to any company that shuts down a Chinese plant and moves it back to the US (preferred) or to Mexico or Canada. If that company must manufacture outside of the North America then the country it does so in needs to be one where the manufacturing standards and labor practices are at a least some acceptable standards. That nation should also be a decent world citizen, not a predator nation like China. I’m not anti trade but we are really doing ourselves a huge disservice by doing so much business with the likes of China.
Donald Trump was never as right as he was about China. We must deal tough with them.
I fully agree. One can do very well in China as long as they don't condemn the government there. It is like Singapore as it is not a democracy, but as long as Singapore is allied to USA their type of government is not condemned.
We have to tell apart the country called China and its people from Xi Jinping and the Gongchangdang. Two distinct things. As the entire world nowadays depends on the chinese economy, the government increasingly makes what wants. They can threaten Taiwan, they can fill the Indic Ocean with militar bases, they can threaten the Tibetans and torture the Uyghurs without being sanctioned by the international community, they can deny access to WHO to fully inspect the instalations where the Sars-CoV-2 supposed to arise. For sure the Gongchangdang censures everyone, limits the religious freedom, much like the government of many countries in Asia, but they really poses, if not a threat, a great disturb to the world order because of the international power and behaviour.
China is the biggest threat to the free world today. This covid mess is really all their fault. It may even be intentional. They destroyed the lives of millions around the world and no one seems to want to hold them accountable. We should be isolating them economically. The US should be demanding its companies begin to pull out of China. We should be working in concert with other western powers to leverage massive economic pressure upon them. We should also cancel all debt to them as reparations for covid damages. Every other nation on earth that owes China money should do the same thing.
The persecution of Tibetans, the Muslim concentration camps and the treatment of Hong Kong citizens are all also very serious issues. Also let’s not forget the 8 year olds building all those cheap goods and the unchecked pollution the Chinese unleash upon the world. The CCP is a problem. China is not a good world player. It is time the world stops putting up with their behavior. The key to stopping them in a peaceful manner is using economic leverage against them. The world needs to stop buying their cheap garbage. There are plenty of places where things can be manufactured economically AND ethically. Here in the US we have a trade agreement that makes Canada and Mexico our preferred trading partners. I would like to see our government offer incentives to any company that shuts down a Chinese plant and moves it back to the US (preferred) or to Mexico or Canada. If that company must manufacture outside of the North America then the country it does so in needs to be one where the manufacturing standards and labor practices are at a least some acceptable standards. That nation should also be a decent world citizen, not a predator nation like China. I’m not anti trade but we are really doing ourselves a huge disservice by doing so much business with the likes of China.
Donald Trump was never as right as he was about China. We must deal tough with them.
If I were to change the bolded line to Guantanamo Bay concertation camps, and treatment of black citizens, you have the U.S. The point is you shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
China is the biggest threat to the free world today. This covid mess is really all their fault. It may even be intentional. They destroyed the lives of millions around the world and no one seems to want to hold them accountable. We should be isolating them economically. The US should be demanding its companies begin to pull out of China. We should be working in concert with other western powers to leverage massive economic pressure upon them. We should also cancel all debt to them as reparations for covid damages. Every other nation on earth that owes China money should do the same thing.
The persecution of Tibetans, the Muslim concentration camps and the treatment of Hong Kong citizens are all also very serious issues. Also let’s not forget the 8 year olds building all those cheap goods and the unchecked pollution the Chinese unleash upon the world. The CCP is a problem. China is not a good world player. It is time the world stops putting up with their behavior. The key to stopping them in a peaceful manner is using economic leverage against them. The world needs to stop buying their cheap garbage. There are plenty of places where things can be manufactured economically AND ethically. Here in the US we have a trade agreement that makes Canada and Mexico our preferred trading partners. I would like to see our government offer incentives to any company that shuts down a Chinese plant and moves it back to the US (preferred) or to Mexico or Canada. If that company must manufacture outside of the North America then the country it does so in needs to be one where the manufacturing standards and labor practices are at a least some acceptable standards. That nation should also be a decent world citizen, not a predator nation like China. I’m not anti trade but we are really doing ourselves a huge disservice by doing so much business with the likes of China.
Donald Trump was never as right as he was about China. We must deal tough with them.
The CCP has their spies in all level of Western governments and institutions. It will be difficult to fight them. Just look at the wumaos here defending the CCP to the death. Yeah, they are a plague to be avoided as all cost. Their neighbors Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, Indonesia, India, and the Philippines are all victims of the CCP's brutal tactics of intimidation and coercion. These countries are spending billions on defense to get ready to fight the CCP. Because Biden is so weak, the CCP military is openly calling for a military confrontation with the USA. The CCP is very very scary.
I just saw the show called 'Away' on Netflix.
Poor Chinese scientist in the movie got some stupid threats from the communist party.
"For the motherland" they supposed to say.
But meanwhile, the 'motherland' is effing them up!
No one in China wants to be treated the way they are treated, yet some 80 IQ idiots in power over there, have their kick out of shaming others.
Plenty of former communist country citizens, all tell about how they absolutely hated living under the regime!
This is why most Chinese citizens live in the former English ruled metropoli, like Shanghai and Bangkok.
Too bad, England's rule over the territories expired 2 years ago, and now the commie govt is finding ways to screw up their country even more!
Their own words:
"For the motherland!"
Their own actions:
"Let's further ruin it!"
Their government doesn't value life!
Their government doesn't value freedom.
And that is why even people in power over there, don't last long, because the system catches up even with them!
One accident, one small error, and they're stripped from their ranks, their families publicly shamed, and set as an example.
Lead by fear, die by fear; including the leaders!
We have to tell apart the country called China and its people from Xi Jinping and the Gongchangdang. Two distinct things. As the entire world nowadays depends on the chinese economy, the government increasingly makes what wants. They can threaten Taiwan, they can fill the Indic Ocean with militar bases, they can threaten the Tibetans and torture the Uyghurs without being sanctioned by the international community, they can deny access to WHO to fully inspect the instalations where the Sars-CoV-2 supposed to arise. For sure the Gongchangdang censures everyone, limts the religious freedom, much like the government of many countries in Asia, but they really poses, if not a threat, a great disturb to the world order because of the international power and behaviour.
Why is the West and USA not condeming Saudi Arabia? Btw Saudi Arabia is one of the worlds worst offenders of religious freedom? Help fund groups like the Taliban, and extremist groups like that and exporting their type of wanabism islam through out the world? Plus most of the 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Plus the execution of a Saudi journalist at a Saudi embassy in Turkey, all known human rights defenders were sent to prison or detained in Saudi Arabia, anyone on social media that questions or is against the covid lockdowns and restrictions can be sent to prison for 5 years and fined up to US800 000.
All gatherings or public protests are banned and the forming of dissident political parties as well.
Plus a blogger in Saudi Arabia was charged for being accused of insulting islam and got 1000 lashes by the wip and sent to prison for 10 years?
Plus women are not allowed to seperate their husbands unless they get permission from a male relative guardian.
Plus homosexuality is outlawed and still carries the death sentence.
The abuse of foreign migrants, esp from places such as the Indian subcontinent, Phillipines, South East Asia and Africa, and those that hate those jobs or want to leave their jobs in Saudi Arabia are forbidden to do so without the permission from the Saudis that hired them.
Yet Saudi Arabia remains a very important trading nation and an ally against a supposed greater threat in the region which is Saudi Arabia.
If I were to change the bolded line to Guantanamo Bay concertation camps, and treatment of black citizens, you have the U.S. The point is you shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
Guantanamo bay is a prison for terrorists who have committed acts of violence, not a political or ethnic concentration camp. Everyone is safer with those very scary terrorists locked up in prison where they belong.
The US laws provide for equality for everyone regardless of race or ethnicity and they have done so for at least 60 years. The United States has corrected its problem with racial injustice in its laws. The protest movements seen today are a result of lingering tensions regarding race in this country. The protest movements also demonstrate the freedoms this nation offers its citizens. Those protests have continued for years now without any attempt to silence them. This is because we have something China does not, the freedom of speech. While our country is deeply divided over the question of whether or not those protesters have a legitimate complaint or not we are all very much supportive of their right to protest peacefully. Dissatisfied citizens protesting in our streets is a demonstration to the world of the openness and freedom of the United States. We are not like China, we don’t violently silence them, we don’t silence the media nor do we restrict internet access in order to hide the problem or prevent people from seeing what is going on. The United States is NOTHING alike China.
These types of threads are created by a type of American. Gee, wonder why...
As much as I like the US and Americsns in general, there is a subset of Americans that makes this anti-China thing quite runny. It reminds me of when I became aware that in Britain there was an attempt to belittle the USA and Americans when it was clear that British power was waining and in its place was the rising American power. The similarities are quite something!
I don't recall any attempt to belittle the US by Britain, a country that was grateful to the US for it's WW2 Contribution.
Churchill and Roosevelt had among the best relations ever in terms of world leasers, and we also had good relations with the likes of Eisenhower, JFK, Reagan etc.
Britain also fought alongside the US in Korea in the 1950's and was a staunch ally who fully supported the US throughout the Cold War.
The fact there was a Common Enemy in the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact and Iron Curtain across Europe meant that both countries were very valuable to each other and there was no belittlement.
The US and UK worked together to help create NATO in terms of mutual defence and the UK/US Intelligence Agreement which became known as Five Eyes.
By contrast the French have always been far more wary of the US, which is why US bases in France were closed in the 1960's and why France left NATO's Central Command.
France's legacy to the US being Vietnam.
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