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Old 06-01-2022, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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Do whites in South Africa, particularly the English-speaking ones (who are less likely than Afrikaners to have some admixture from nonwhites such as Cape Malays), have as high a skin cancer rate as whites in Australia and New Zealand?

How about whites in southern South America (Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, and southern Brazil), particularly those of Northern European descent?
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Old 06-01-2022, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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Melanoma skin cancer incidence
Age-standardized rate (world) per 100,000, both sexes, 2018


https://canceratlas.cancer.org/risk-...let-radiation/


It should also be noted, albeit it isn’t the purpose of this thread, that skin cancer also affects people of color. Everyone should be wearing sunscreen, especially now that things like the Ozone layer faces problems due to human-created pollution. Human of color are made to survive a world with the Ozone layer, not one that has a hole and is disappearing. Along with that means sun rays reach the surface of the earth stronger than before.

The following applies to everyone, not just people of color.



https://www.aad.org/public/diseases/...read%20quickly.

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Old 06-03-2022, 02:27 AM
 
Location: Australia
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Do whites in South Africa, particularly the English-speaking ones (who are less likely than Afrikaners to have some admixture from nonwhites such as Cape Malays), have as high a skin cancer rate as whites in Australia and New Zealand?

How about whites in southern South America (Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, and southern Brazil), particularly those of Northern European descent?
Probably impossible to answer because in Australia statistics are not collated on race per se. Only whether people identify as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders or not.

The rate of skin cancer is dropping amongst younger people because of about forty years of measures to encourage people to be sun safe.
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Old 06-03-2022, 11:14 PM
 
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Probably impossible to answer because in Australia statistics are not collated on race per se. Only whether people identify as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders or not.

The rate of skin cancer is dropping amongst younger people because of about forty years of measures to encourage people to be sun safe.
Not to mention to push to get people to use Sun Protection Factor 50, at the very least.
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Old 06-04-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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South Africa English whites are only a small minority of people of South Africa. Most English speaking Whites have left South Africa too. Many English speaking Whites are mixed and are Jewish background have no ethnic background from the UK and Ireland. Others are mixed with Affricanners (BTW Affricanners look very much Anglo to me) and other ethnic groups in South Africa.

With Australia having the highest skin cancer in the world, it is not just because most people are North Western European origin but because traditionally in Australia to have a bronzed skin is valued and sunbaking at the beach was very popular pass times. Having a tan has always been a very popular look in Australia.

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Old 06-04-2022, 08:32 PM
 
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South Africa English whites are only a small minority of people of South Africa. Most English speaking Whites have left South Africa too. Many English speaking Whites are mixed and are Jewish background have no ethnic background from the UK and Ireland. Others are mixed with Affricanners (BTW Affricanners look very much Anglo to me) and other ethnic groups in South Africa.

With Australia having the highest skin cancer in the world, it is not just because most people are North Western European origin but because traditionally in Australia to have a bronzed skin is valued and sunbaking at the beach was very popular pass times. Having a tan has always been a very popular look in Australia.
True, our South African friends have ethnic backgrounds of German and Greek and have a number of friends there who are Jewish.

Again true about the beach culture, which is now less prevalent , at least in Sydney.
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Old 06-05-2022, 04:19 AM
 
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True, our South African friends have ethnic backgrounds of German and Greek and have a number of friends there who are Jewish.

Again true about the beach culture, which is now less prevalent , at least in Sydney.
South Africa is very diverse. I have encountered Chinese South Africans too. Anyway I think South Africa is the most diverse country in Africa.
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Old 06-05-2022, 05:24 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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True, our South African friends have ethnic backgrounds of German and Greek and have a number of friends there who are Jewish.

Again true about the beach culture, which is now less prevalent , at least in Sydney.
I don't see the connection between being German and skin cancer?
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Old 06-05-2022, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Having a tan has always been a very popular look in Australia.
I think this is the key statement in terms of providing a cultural perspective as to why Australia has the highest skin cancer rates. Large White population with year round sunny weather by and large - bad combination for Skin Cancer notwithstanding a cultural admiration for sun kissed skin. Tanning is actually a reflection of DNA damage in the skin. Not sure about South Africa but its probably similar - just that the population is much smaller than Australia. I'm from Canada and even though its largely a white country - the 4 seasons mitigate the impact.
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Old 06-05-2022, 09:07 PM
 
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I think this is the key statement in terms of providing a cultural perspective as to why Australia has the highest skin cancer rates. Large White population with year round sunny weather by and large - bad combination for Skin Cancer notwithstanding a cultural admiration for sun kissed skin. Tanning is actually a reflection of DNA damage in the skin. Not sure about South Africa but its probably similar - just that the population is much smaller than Australia. I'm from Canada and even though its largely a white country - the 4 seasons mitigate the impact.
I am sure the skin cancer rate will really rise in Canada in the future due to global warming. However the skin caner rate is high in Northern Europe, because Northern Europeans love to go to warmer countries to sunbake and get a tan.

East Asians like Japanese and Chinese can get skin cancer, but there is a traditional stigma of getting a tan there, and you don't see many east Asians sunbaking at the beach, unlike westerners. That is why the skin cancer rate is low there.
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