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Old 10-26-2022, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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also I forget to mention the traffic problems that goes along with bridges and Tunnels. Being from NJ/NYC I know all about this.

If there is truly that much demand to travel back and forth, then any kind of funnel like a tunnel or bridge will be jammed up for hours.
Okay lets take away all the bridges and tunnels from NYC except for the Lincoln tunnel and the Brooklyn bridge, see what kind of traffic problems you get then.
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Old 10-26-2022, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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But lets keep building these public works projects do developers or mega white collar corporations can make money off the taxpayers.

If this is such a great idea, then the genius who thought it up, can just borrow money, build the bridge, then charge the tolls, make a profit and pay back the loan. Surely, if there is enough demand, this will be feasible.
Based on your posts in this thread i assume you have never been in a 3rd world country.
Traffic jams non stop easily solved by building/connecting a few more roads in smart locations.
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Old 10-26-2022, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Those 12K people crossing it could have come from anywhere, and probably only had to once in their lives.

All that time saved in the car not having to drive that 35 miles to/from these specific points was likely spent driving somewhere else anyways. So no one really saved any time in the car.
Sure, Ohio-West Virginia is a real tourist hotspot

Can you please explain this because it doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 10-26-2022, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Are there really that many people that travel from Dublin to Wales though on a daily basis? Those that do for business likely have deep pockets. They should have to spend on ferries and spread that wealth around more.
I'm anti-capitalism but if a bridge/tunnel helps people to have more free time in their limited life then go ahead.

You can charge people the same amount as the ferry costs to use the road, its not like the ferry is owned by a family anyway.
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Old 10-27-2022, 04:39 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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The new HS2 Colne Valley Viaduct will stretch 3.4km (2 miles) across a series of lakes and waterways between Hillingdon and the M25, just outside of London.

Colne Valley Viaduct - HS2

Brüno explains in this video -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMbGCFCrDQ

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Old 10-27-2022, 09:49 AM
 
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Okay lets take away all the bridges and tunnels from NYC except for the Lincoln tunnel and the Brooklyn bridge, see what kind of traffic problems you get then.
Then either Philly, or somewhere in NJ would have gotten all the population a long time ago. Manhattan and probably just become a luxury resort island for the rich. Which it is now. Long Island can become some national/state park. Or NYC metro be no bigger in population than Nawleans, which is also a busy port right now.

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Old 10-27-2022, 09:53 AM
 
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Based on your posts in this thread i assume you have never been in a 3rd world country.
Traffic jams non stop easily solved by building/connecting a few more roads in smart locations.
Which country? I need more specifics so I can look into it.
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Old 10-27-2022, 09:54 AM
 
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Sure, Ohio-West Virginia is a real tourist hotspot

Can you please explain this because it doesn't make sense to me.
So if they arent, then why on earth do you need to charge taxpayers to build expensive bridge that connects the two points? I am assuming its publicly funded, this bridge or tunnel.
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Old 10-27-2022, 09:57 AM
 
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I'm anti-capitalism but if a bridge/tunnel helps people to have more free time in their limited life then go ahead.

You can charge people the same amount as the ferry costs to use the road, its not like the ferry is owned by a family anyway.
The time saved will likely be spent driving somewhere else now. At the end of day, they saved nothing.

Even if we invent Star Trek teleporters to save people time, people will just use teleporters more. The time spent using teleporters will equal the time spent when you transport somewhere without.

Two ferry dock be inherently easier to construct, and far cheaper every time. If someone wanted to make a family owned ferry, still be more feasible from a privatized stand point than owning your own bridge/tunnel.
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Old 10-27-2022, 10:05 AM
 
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The new HS2 Colne Valley Viaduct will stretch 3.4km (2 miles) across a series of lakes and waterways between Hillingdon and the M25, just outside of London.

Colne Valley Viaduct - HS2

Brüno explains in this video -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMbGCFCrDQ
I dont know if I call that a bridge. Its basically a road or track that allows water to pass underneath.

I originally responding to the project in Shanghai. That is a massive undertaking. Not comparable to above vid.
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