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Old 10-27-2022, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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So if they arent, then why on earth do you need to charge taxpayers to build expensive bridge that connects the two points?
for people that live in Ohio/West Virginia and work in the other state.

Then only charge people from those 2 States.
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Old 10-27-2022, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Then either Philly, or somewhere in NJ would have gotten all the population a long time ago. Manhattan and probably just become a luxury resort island for the rich. Which it is now. Long Island can become some national/state park. Or NYC metro be no bigger in population than Nawleans, which is also a busy port right now.
Yeah too late now, some cities are too iconic to just leave.
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Old 10-27-2022, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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The time saved will likely be spent driving somewhere else now. At the end of day, they saved nothing.
That might be so but the peace they get from that (so called) time saved will make them feel happy.
At the end of the day the most important thing on this planet.
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Old 10-27-2022, 07:46 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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One place that desperately needs tunnels is Colombia. It has the topography of Switzerland in an area the size of Italy. Even with the tunnels it has, it's classed as one of the most poorly land connected countries internally, with the popular saying that it costs more to transport to port than to ship to China, which is partially true.

Colombia has 8 out of the 15 longest tunnels in all Latin America but it's crazy topography still gives it a low classification. It's also why it's aviation industry and air traffic is amongst the most prominent in the world.

Longest tunnels in Latin America


Tunnels LatAm by Pueblo Fuerte, on Flickr

Colombia's Topography between cities


Colombia Relieve by Pueblo Fuerte, on Flickr


Few large countries come close to this topographical challenge of connecting major cities. Maybe if Tibet was a country?

One small example that connects the Andes to the Tropical Savannah (Llanos)..

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Old 10-27-2022, 08:07 PM
 
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One place that desperately needs tunnels is Colombia. It has the topography of Switzerland in an area the size of Italy. Even with the tunnels it has, it's classed as one of the most poorly land connected countries internally, with the popular saying that it costs more to transport to port than to ship to China, which is partially true.

Colombia has 8 out of the 15 longest tunnels in all Latin America but it's crazy topography still gives it a low classification. It's also why it's aviation industry and air traffic is amongst the most prominent in the world.

Longest tunnels in Latin America


Tunnels LatAm by Pueblo Fuerte, on Flickr

Colombia's Topography between cities


Colombia Relieve by Pueblo Fuerte, on Flickr


Few large countries come close to this topographical challenge of connecting major cities. Maybe if Tibet was a country?

One small example that connects the Andes to the Tropical Savannah (Llanos)..

Nah, Colombians should just utilize more of these. They wont even need roads.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smZaDIjo0FE
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Old 10-27-2022, 08:16 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Nah, Colombians should just utilize more of these. They wont even need roads.
Nah instead they've got Declan Ryan's little mittens & clowns charging every nickel & dime for ambiguous extras. RyanAir is making a fortune of off Colombia. Spirit sucky Air is all over them too, 20% of it's international profits are made out of Colombia. Basically they're FlixBus coaches with wings - I can stand Ryan Air/Viva Air but boy do I hate Flixbus!

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Old 10-28-2022, 06:03 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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I dont know if I call that a bridge. Its basically a road or track that allows water to pass underneath.

I originally responding to the project in Shanghai. That is a massive undertaking. Not comparable to above vid.
It's called a viaduct, and is something that goes back to Roman times.

It's part of the £100 billion plus HS2 project a new high speed rail line between London and Northern England, and which also includes 64 miles of new rail tunnels.

The initial HS1 which opened in 2007 land cost nearly £6 billion, linked London to the Channel Tunnel via a new high speed rail line and involved over 16 miles of tunnels across the Medway and in to London, as well as a number of new bridges.

Whilst the recently opened Crossrail saw 26 miles of new deep rail tunnels across London, and runs heavy rail passenger services under London (East to West) rather than slower subway or metro units.

Whilst as part of a £6 billion project to upgrade and expand the north-south heavy rail across London, known as the Thameslink Programme, rail canal tunnels were constructed near Regents Canal near King's Cross and now allow trains to go none stop from Brighton through London to Cambridge, as well as other routes.

The total cost in terms of Crossrail, HS1, HS2 and Thameslink, is in the region of £132 Billion ($152.5 Billion USD), and this figure doesn't include other major UK rail or transport projects such as the upgrades to the Trans Pennine route, Midlands upgrade, the East Coat Main Line upgrade and numerous other such projects.

HS2 -Tunnels

HS1 -Rail Technology

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Old 10-28-2022, 02:54 PM
 
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Singapore has them too:

Kallang-Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE), Singapore’s ninth expressway, was fully opened to traffic on 20 September 2008.1 Stretching 12 km from East Coast Parkway (ECP) to Tampines Expressway (TPE), KPE includes a 9-kilometre-long tunnel, which was the longest underground road in Southeast Asia when it was completed in 2008.2 Built to improve connectivity between the northeastern parts of Singapore and the city, KPE cuts the travel time from areas such as Sengkang and Punggol to the city by up to 25 percent.3 It also reduces traffic on Central Expressway (CTE) and improves the connectivity between three major expressways –ECP, TPE and Pan-Island Expressway (PIE).4https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infope...009-01-30.html

Indonesia is planning to build a bridge from Singapore to a few Indonesian islands in order to further develop industry and tourism there: Planning is underway for a massive bridge project in Indonesia. The new bridge is intended to link Batam Island with Bintan Island, lying immediately to the south of Singapore. The work will improve transport for these two northerly Indonesian islands.

In all the bridge will have to measure a total of 7km and will be split into two sections as a result. A 2km bridge will link Batam Island with Tanjung Sauh Island, while a 5km bridge will link Tanjung Sauh Island and Bintan Island. Construction of this double bridge project is expected to cost over US$946 million, with the Indonesian Government presently securing the necessary finance.https://www.worldhighways.com/wh10/n...-being-planned

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Old 10-30-2022, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Saskatoon - Saskatchewan, Canada
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A bridge or tunnel between Buenos Aires and Colonia Del Sacramento, Uruguay, would be nice to better integrate the whole region. But I'm almost certain it wouldn't be financially viable. It would demand a really really huge investment.

Currently, Buenos Aires is connected with Uruguay by ferry boats. There's a bridge connecting Argentina and Uruguay almost 300k far from Buenos Aires, which drastically increase the time of travel if someone wants to go only driving from Buenos Aires to Montevideo. And there are a lot of options to travel between the countries by plane.

Here's the main road from Buenos Aires to Montevideo, avoiding the ferry boat:
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Old 11-01-2022, 07:12 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Old roads of Colombia




Much needed new ones with tunnels and viaducts




Still much more needed, some being constructed in order to remotely resemble a connected country.
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