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Old 01-20-2024, 09:02 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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If one's concern for a country is for little other purpose than to use it to play off against their adversaries, then it shows that their concern is not for that country, but rather to use that country for their own benefit. I don't see how India worsening its relationship with 2 juggernauts in its backyard for the benefit for one an ocean away is beneficial for India.

India doesn't tell Russia to take India's side on its border disputes with China. The result is an almost frictionless relationship.

India is free to choose its own path and future for itself, and it's not realistic for anyone to expect India to oblige to become a geopolitical pawn for anyone else.
Except what is gradually is going to happen is that the USA, Japan, Australia, the European Union, Britain, Canada, etc. begin to realize that India is useless as a possible ally and is at best a fair-weather friend.

It is a difficult balancing act that India is trying to do, use the QUAD to balance against China without offering anything concrete in return, trying to expand trade with the West but still supporting Russia in its invasion of Ukraine. The balancing is only going to work for so long.
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Old 01-20-2024, 04:52 PM
 
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As a long time student of history. Long time peace is achieved through complete destruction and obliteration of the opposing country and extermination of enemies. Throughout history from China, Greece, Turks, and Romans achieved hundreds of years of peace through the extermination and eradication of the opposing ethnicities. It’s only through time and the repopulation of those ethnicities that created new factions and tribes.

This is why what America and the West had done is unprecedented. Allowing people and ethnicities that oppose the rule of the West to populate and pollute the gene pools. When I hear of young people here that want an open border. I can only think this is the beginning of the end of America. Allowing these barbaric people to pollute the gene pools sounds completely ridiculous. Just when America has to interbred with Africans since the freeing of slaves and now must allow the interbreeding of other people that were behind the evolutionary process is completely moronic.

A lot of young people need re-education or later they will suffer their own betrayal.

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Old 01-22-2024, 07:31 PM
 
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As a long time student of history. Long time peace is achieved through complete destruction and obliteration of the opposing country and extermination of enemies. Throughout history from China, Greece, Turks, and Romans achieved hundreds of years of peace through the extermination and eradication of the opposing ethnicities. It’s only through time and the repopulation of those ethnicities that created new factions and tribes.

This is why what America and the West had done is unprecedented. Allowing people and ethnicities that oppose the rule of the West to populate and pollute the gene pools. When I hear of young people here that want an open border. I can only think this is the beginning of the end of America. Allowing these barbaric people to pollute the gene pools sounds completely ridiculous. Just when America has to interbred with Africans since the freeing of slaves and now must allow the interbreeding of other people that were behind the evolutionary process is completely moronic.

A lot of young people need re-education or later they will suffer their own betrayal.
I'm not so sure. In the examples you gave, neither Empire was ever able to achieve peace. The Romans still had to deal with the Germanic, Slavic, and Celtic tribes along the periphery. In addition there were the Parthians and the Nubians to worry about, since Rome wasn't able to subdue them. China had to contend with those pesky Mongol and Turkic tribes. I can give more examples, but you get the point.

Maybe you're referring to peace within their borders. Either way there is nothing unprecedented about what America and the West allowed. After years of fighting it became clear especially with the advent of nuclear weapons, that trying to play games of thrones in real life would result in utter destruction.

There is no need to refer to other groups of people as barbaric. They are people period. Such language says more about you.
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Old 01-22-2024, 07:33 PM
 
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Except what is gradually is going to happen is that the USA, Japan, Australia, the European Union, Britain, Canada, etc. begin to realize that India is useless as a possible ally and is at best a fair-weather friend.

It is a difficult balancing act that India is trying to do, use the QUAD to balance against China without offering anything concrete in return, trying to expand trade with the West but still supporting Russia in its invasion of Ukraine. The balancing is only going to work for so long.
It will work for so long as China remains strong and therefore a viable threat. What alternative does the West have?
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