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Old 06-17-2008, 08:28 AM
 
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I'm darn proud of that blue U.S. passport I have in my pocket. Proud enough to have served in it's military. And I've been both proud and ashamed of our foreign policy at different times. I've also traveled a good bit of the world. And have had the joy of seeing the U.S. as others see us. I'm at once proud, humbled and embarrased when I talk to others about the U.S. As Moonshadow says, the vast majority of foreigners DO seperate our foreign policy and leaders from our people and culture. Something our sometimes-biased media fails to point out. And "freedom of speech" is actually enjoyed in many other nations BESIDES the United States...
Agreed! There's much to be proud of about American as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't live without American music, art, literature, food, culture, scientific advancements, medical breakthroughs, history, you name it, there's much that America and Americans have done that they can be very proud of. It's all about seeing the whole picture. Every country has things about it that are great as well as not so great. There have been times recently when I've hung my head in shame at the way my country has been presented to the rest of the world. Some things that have been said and done have not been the Australia I know and it irks me no end the way that we are portrayed in the media some times but it's not a true representation of who we are and I'm well aware that this applies to other countries as well.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:44 AM
 
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I am a citizen of the US, an American they say, and I want to apologize to the world for being #1 all the time; for bearing the burden of all the less fortunate in the world, for having my tax money spent to keep unappreciative people in food and clothes, for having my fellow countrymen in uniform protecting ungrateful heathens instead of being home with their own families; who are you to speak poorly about our government and our leaders...if I want to talk about him that's fine; he's my president and this is my country but keep your traps closed...you have no right. If no one likes it why don't they step up and tote the load for a while. The media tries to show things that stir up others against the US to give them something to report...think for yourselves people; think what you would have if the US pulled out of everything and cut off funding to the world...don't listen to the media over here, they are in the news because they can't do anything else...they are no value citizens..don't be like them. The common man over here is tired of taking care of everyone else...and we are the government...we decide...remember that
You have a right, Too be proud of your country (As I am proud of mine! ), But remember, That Free speech, Isn't just an American right, It's right of every Democracy, Throughout the world.
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:25 AM
 
Location: South Portland, Maine
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Default A letter written in the seventies following watergate by Gordon Sinclair

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"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -not once, but several times and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of otherpeople in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."

I feel this letter still applies to what's going on on the world today.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:00 PM
 
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I am a citizen of the US, an American they say, and I want to apologize to the world for being #1 all the time; for bearing the burden of all the less fortunate in the world, for having my tax money spent to keep unappreciative people in food and clothes, for having my fellow countrymen in uniform protecting ungrateful heathens instead of being home with their own families; who are you to speak poorly about our government and our leaders...if I want to talk about him that's fine; he's my president and this is my country but keep your traps closed...you have no right. If no one likes it why don't they step up and tote the load for a while. The media tries to show things that stir up others against the US to give them something to report...think for yourselves people; think what you would have if the US pulled out of everything and cut off funding to the world...don't listen to the media over here, they are in the news because they can't do anything else...they are no value citizens..don't be like them. The common man over here is tired of taking care of everyone else...and we are the government...we decide...remember that
Just a food for a thought-

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[SIZE=2]Democracy Now! | Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions

[/SIZE][SIZE=2]The Harvard Boys Do Russia (http://www.thenation.com/doc/19980601/wedel - broken link)
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You MIGHT understand why the rest of the world is looking at US not without suspicion...
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Just a food for a thought-

[SIZE=2]Monsanto Buys ‘Terminator’ Seeds Company[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]Democracy Now! | Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2][/SIZE][SIZE=2]The Harvard Boys Do Russia (http://www.thenation.com/doc/19980601/wedel - broken link) [/SIZE]
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You MIGHT understand why the rest of the world is looking at US not without suspicion...
Tough *******! Who care what the has been countrys of the EU think!!! Maybe we SHOULD be the A-holes the world thinks we are and let the rest of you croak or be taken over by the Reds!We'll take North and South America drill it full of hole and have all the gas we need and if in the process we decreased the surplus population by a few billion it will probably relieve the planet of some stress..........
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:49 PM
 
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Moderator's Note:

Either keep things civil and on topic, folks, or the thread will be closed and you can move the party over to Politics and Controversial Topics.
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Old 06-17-2008, 05:30 PM
 
Location: The Powerhouse That Is California
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newsflash:

who cares what europeans think of us?

jealousy i tell ya...
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Mid Missouri (Miz-oo-ree)
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Thumbs up I finally did it!

I have finally made a post that has got some good response...sometimes you have to push your own ideas a little over the edge to get the true feelings of others to come out....Thanks
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:40 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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newsflash:

who cares what europeans think of us?

jealousy i tell ya...
Don't forget, we are an offspring of Europe.
We are much more like them than everyone else.
They've been around a few thousand years more than we have and are more cultured than us. We may have more $, or we think that we do, but they have all the freedoms as us.
So its to both our interests to get along

Last edited by WildWestDude; 06-17-2008 at 07:29 PM..
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:26 PM
 
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I still believe that the US is the best country to live. I am very proud to be an american
and considering with all the problems we have,still I would not consider living somewhere else.I sometimes feel ashamed about our government policies and I do apologize for that and I sincerely hope that the rest of the world would just take a second look of how sincere we are in improving our relationships with everyone.
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