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Old 07-18-2008, 12:54 AM
 
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BUENOS AIRES, Argentina -- The world's top Nazi-hunter says he's made progress in finding 94-year-old "Doctor Death," a former concentration camp physician accused of torturing Jewish prisoners as they died and who may have been living for decades in Argentina or Chile.

Newsmax.com - Nazi-Hunter Says He's Closing in on 'Dr. Death' (http://www.newsmax.com/international/argentina_nazi_hunt/2008/07/17/113794.html - broken link)
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:32 AM
 
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Oh good, I was wondering when they'd get him. When the authorities apprehend him will he be handcuffed to his walker?
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:01 AM
 
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This is ridiculous.
How long this Nazi hunt is still going to last?
Don't they realize the absurdity of bringing centenarians to the docks ?
There must be other ways now to deal with this past.
In France, the granddaughter of a former official of the Vichy government , who later served as well under De Gaulle, was fired from her job in the public service just because of her family ties. It's gross.
If they start punishing the following generations, there is no end in sight in the sad process of revenge/ retaliation.
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:24 AM
 
Location: in the southwest
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This is ridiculous.
How long this Nazi hunt is still going to last?
Don't they realize the absurdity of bringing centenarians to the docks ?
Well, sure--it's just too bad it takes that long to find them. But I don't have a problem with bringing an oldster to justice. Better late than never.
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In France, the granddaughter of a former official of the Vichy government , who later served as well under De Gaulle, was fired from her job in the public service just because of her family ties.
If they start punishing the following generations, there is no end in sight in the sad process of revenge/ retaliation.
I don't think that later generations should suffer for something their forebears did. That doesn't make any sense.
Heim was indicted in Germany after World War II on charges he murdered hundreds of inmates at the Mauthausen concentration camp in 1941. The Wiesenthal center says he injected the corrosive poison phenol directly into the hearts of many and used "other torturous killing methods."
Aribert Heim should face trial.
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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My Great-Uncle was interviewed by Simon Wiesenthal years ago as a survivor of the death camps so I hope they find all the bastards and bring them to justice.

Such a shame it has taken so long as so many will have died already.

And I don't care how old they are either, put them on trial, put them in the most awful jail around and throw away the key. They didn't discriminate against their victims because they were old or babies so why should we care ?

An evil old man is still evil.

Like BlueWillowPlate though I am completely opposed to putting the sins of the fathers/gandfathers on the grandsons/grand-daughters. That is just wrong. One is not responsible for the actions of someone else, relative or not years ago.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:32 AM
 
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This is ridiculous.
How long this Nazi hunt is still going to last?
Don't they realize the absurdity of bringing centenarians to the docks ?
There must be other ways now to deal with this past.
In France, the granddaughter of a former official of the Vichy government , who later served as well under De Gaulle, was fired from her job in the public service just because of her family ties. It's gross.
If they start punishing the following generations, there is no end in sight in the sad process of revenge/ retaliation.
Since when does old age absolve one from such crimes?

You second statement about the granddaughter has merit although I cannot help thinking there is more to it than that. Were family ties a crime, a good portion of the French populace might find themselves under indictment. Then again so would the descendants of slave owners over here.

I do not see the connection between your two notions. Those who are actually guilty versus inherited guilt.
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Fondren SW Yo
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This is ridiculous.
How long this Nazi hunt is still going to last?
Don't they realize the absurdity of bringing centenarians to the docks ?
There must be other ways now to deal with this past.
In France, the granddaughter of a former official of the Vichy government , who later served as well under De Gaulle, was fired from her job in the public service just because of her family ties. It's gross.
If they start punishing the following generations, there is no end in sight in the sad process of revenge/ retaliation.
It will last until every last Nazi is dead or dies behind bars. Not a second sooner.
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, IA
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In France, the granddaughter of a former official of the Vichy government , who later served as well under De Gaulle, was fired from her job in the public service just because of her family ties. It's gross.
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Can you get us a link to this story, please? That's very disturbing.



A couple years ago some of these guys came here and the government wanted to deport a legal citizen who was a German prison guard or something. Sixty years later, he's a peaceful senior citizen living in the United States and they come after him like he's a threat.... Meanwhile, we turn a blind eye to criminals who come across our border like MS-13 and other gangs. I don't think too many people are really going to feel a sense of relief or justice over this one.

I know this guy is in a little different of a category, but I feel sorry for German war veterans. MOST of them fought hard, served honorably and probably very similar to our own grandfathers who went to war, but they're all made out to be monsters who wanted to take over the world and kill everyone who didn't have blonde hair.
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Fondren SW Yo
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Can you get us a link to this story, please? That's very disturbing.



A couple years ago some of these guys came here and the government wanted to deport a legal citizen who was a German prison guard or something. Sixty years later, he's a peaceful senior citizen living in the United States and they come after him like he's a threat.... Meanwhile, we turn a blind eye to criminals who come across our border like MS-13 and other gangs. I don't think too many people are really going to feel a sense of relief or justice over this one.

I know this guy is in a little different of a category, but I feel sorry for German war veterans. MOST of them fought hard, served honorably and probably very similar to our own grandfathers who went to war, but they're all made out to be monsters who wanted to take over the world and kill everyone who didn't have blonde hair.
If it was your family members put in ovens you would probably feel differently. I assure you knowing that each of these Nazi animals will be hunted down literally until the end of their days and will never know peace or security does indeed give me a huge sense of justice. F**k them. The elderly that they had no issues with torturing and murdering were not able to know serenity in their elder years, so neither will they.

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Old 07-21-2008, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, IA
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WWII was rough on EVERYBODY in Europe and the blame doesn't lie solely on one source.

I don't think the fact that a 94 year old man isn't walking (or hoverounding?) the streets of Argentina makes the world a safer place or really makes much of a difference.
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