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Old 04-15-2011, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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London would be the seventh biggest French city in terms of French-born population, as of 2007 at least:
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When Sarkozy started his election campaign last time round the first place he went was London, as that many French people work in the financial district over here. I read in a French magazine that South Kensington has the densest concentration of French people and is known as 'Froggy Valley'.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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According official Britsh stat, there were 59,000 French born people in Greater London in 2009.
This number can be underestimated but the 400,000 figure is clearly an overstatement.

We know that almost the half of french living in London work in Financial sector.
There are about 350,000 jobs in the financial sector in London.
If 400,000 french would live in London, it would mean that almost the half of the financial workers in London are French.

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the fourth largest city of france is toulouse and has a population of 400,000, the wider area has just under a million, but thats not the city, my city dundee has about 150,000 but if you add all the surrounding towns it would have a lot more, but you can't add surrounding towns to the population of a city, because they are towns and villages in their own right, so the population of the city of toulouse is 400,000
You don't know the concept of suburbs and metropolitan area.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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ok 800,000 live in the "suburbs"
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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France is one of the few european countries that clearly defined the metropolitan area.
Metropolitan Area (France) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Metropolitan area are based on commute

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ok 800,000 live in the "suburbs"
More exactly 700,000 live in suburbs and exurbus of Toulouse.
PS : The fourth largest city of France is Lille, not Toulouse.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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lol lille is the 10th largest!

Paris 2,138,551
Marseille 794,811
Lyon 472,317
Toulouse 433,055
Nice 338,620
Nantes 277,269
Strasbourg 274,845
Montpellier 248,252
Bordeaux 231,844
Lille 228,328

http://population.mongabay.com/population/france
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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So you clearly don't understand the concept of suburbs and metropolitan area.
Metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the top 10 city (metropolitan area) in France (2007)

Paris : 11,836,970
Lyon : 1,757,180
Marseille : 1,618,369
Lille : 1,163,934
Toulouse : 1,118,472
Bordeaux : 1,009,313
Nice : 999,678
Nantes : 768,305
Strasbourg : 641,853
Toulon : 600,740

City proper is a wrong way to calculate the size of a city.
Lille is only in the tenth position because its city limits are very small.
If you compare the 40 km² of Lille proper with the 118 km² of Toulouse proper, there is no doubt that Toulouse will be more populated.

Metropolitan area are based on commute, not on size, density or anything else.
Better method of measure than city proper.
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Old 04-15-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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so by the way you calculate it, my city dundee, recognised as the fourth largest city in scotland, would then take in another 2 cities, and about 7 towns in its metropolitan area? then would become the third largest, but the actual third largest is more populated, thats not the way to calculate the population of a city, you calculate the population of a city by the amount of people staying in the city limits, not by including "suburbs" which are really towns and villages in their own right near the city
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Old 04-15-2011, 03:54 PM
 
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This is the limit between Lyon city proper and the suburb of Villeurbanne.


Of course these two area have nothing in common, there are not the same city, people live seperated and don't use the same transport according you.
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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so do people in the city 13 miles from me! but its still not part of my city, its another city!
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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In France, the Metropolitan area system differs a lot from that of the UK or Germany, where cities are more seperated from their suburbs. This is why London often has a population of about 7.5 Million (city proper), whereas Paris has 11.2 Million (the whole region/metro area). Hence, these are very dissimilar numbers....
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