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Old 09-09-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Offcourse Moscow Russia, i don't know if you talk about races and nationalities, in Moscow we got Ukranians Turkemns, Tatars, Ethnic Russians, Azeris, Turks, Chinese, Mongols, Gerogrians, Vatyaks, Bashkir's, if you talk about ethnicity no doubt there is more ethnic groups in Russia and in Moscow alone than in any other city or country !
Yeah I defiantly know many people that consider Moscow diverse.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:42 AM
 
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Yeah I defiantly know many people that consider Moscow diverse.
Just because there are no African-Americans or Hispanics it doesn't mean it's not diverse. Obviously, it's no NYC, Toronto, London or Amsterdam either but it also has a fair share of Ethnic diversity.
I guess it's not that diverse if you consider the census data (it doesn't include illegal immigrants or non-Russian nationals) and the fact that many of the follwoing groups are "native" to Russia, however, due to Moscow's high population of 10 Mio inhabitants, they are quite numerous:


Moscow has:

+ the largest Tartar population worldwide
+ the largest Armenian population outside of Armenia
+ the largest indigenous Sibirian population
+ the largest Azeri population outside of Azerbaijan
+ the largest Central Asian (Tajik, Uzbek, Kazakh, Chuvash) population outside of that countries
(which are a diverse mixture themselves between Middle Eastern, Turkic, East Asian and White European/Slavic elements)
+ the largest Ukrainian and Belarussian population outside of these countries
+ the largest Caucasian population worldwide (yes, the real Caucasians from Chechnya, Georgia etc. not "Caucasian" in the U.S. perception)

Some large historic minorities like Russian Jews (Moscow had the largest Jewish community in Europe along with Berlin, Vienna and Warsaw) are still present in significant numbers but are rather small communities now due to the history (WWII, anti-Semitism in the Soviet Union, Perestroika etc.)



(That's just the offical data without illegals, foreign nationals, naturalized citizens etc.)
Ethnic groups in Moscow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Moscow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Moscow - Moscow International Portal :: Population
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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^ yes but what percentage are they, and what percentage are Russian?

In that case one could list many other cities.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Finland
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^ yes but what percentage are they, and what percentage are Russian?

In that case one could list many other cities.
How big a percentage are American of the LA latinos and African-Americans?
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Just because there are no African-Americans or Hispanics it doesn't mean it's not diverse. Obviously, it's no NYC, Toronto, London or Amsterdam either but it also has a fair share of Ethnic diversity.
I guess it's not that diverse if you consider the census data (it doesn't include illegal immigrants or non-Russian nationals) and the fact that many of the follwoing groups are "native" to Russia, however, due to Moscow's high population of 10 Mio inhabitants, they are quite numerous:


Moscow has:

+ the largest Tartar population worldwide
+ the largest Armenian population outside of Armenia
+ the largest indigenous Sibirian population
+ the largest Azeri population outside of Azerbaijan
+ the largest Central Asian (Tajik, Uzbek, Kazakh, Chuvash) population outside of that countries
(which are a diverse mixture themselves between Middle Eastern, Turkic, East Asian and White European/Slavic elements)
+ the largest Ukrainian and Belarussian population outside of these countries
+ the largest Caucasian population worldwide (yes, the real Caucasians from Chechnya, Georgia etc. not "Caucasian" in the U.S. perception)

Some large historic minorities like Russian Jews (Moscow had the largest Jewish community in Europe along with Berlin, Vienna and Warsaw) are still present in significant numbers but are rather small communities now due to the history (WWII, anti-Semitism in the Soviet Union, Perestroika etc.)



(That's just the offical data without illegals, foreign nationals, naturalized citizens etc.)
Ethnic groups in Moscow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Moscow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Moscow - Moscow International Portal :: Population
How funny would it be if Russians called black Russian people 'African Americans!' lol
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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How big a percentage are American of the LA latinos and African-Americans?
LA is over 50% Latino. Many cities are majority African American.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Finland
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LA is over 50% Latino. Many cities are majority African American.
Yeah, so cities Like LA and Detroit are multicultural, with one or two languages spoken and a handful of nationalities, but European cities with 200 languages spoken and 100 nationalities ain't?

So if a city is 50% Finnish and 50% Swedish it's not multicultural. But 50% American and 50% Mexican is.


Quite striking logic.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Just because there are no African-Americans or Hispanics it doesn't mean it's not diverse. Obviously, it's no NYC, Toronto, London or Amsterdam either but it also has a fair share of Ethnic diversity.
I guess it's not that diverse if you consider the census data (it doesn't include illegal immigrants or non-Russian nationals) and the fact that many of the follwoing groups are "native" to Russia, however, due to Moscow's high population of 10 Mio inhabitants, they are quite numerous:


Moscow has:

+ the largest Tartar population worldwide
+ the largest Armenian population outside of Armenia
+ the largest indigenous Sibirian population
+ the largest Azeri population outside of Azerbaijan
+ the largest Central Asian (Tajik, Uzbek, Kazakh, Chuvash) population outside of that countries
(which are a diverse mixture themselves between Middle Eastern, Turkic, East Asian and White European/Slavic elements)
+ the largest Ukrainian and Belarussian population outside of these countries
+ the largest Caucasian population worldwide (yes, the real Caucasians from Chechnya, Georgia etc. not "Caucasian" in the U.S. perception)

Some large historic minorities like Russian Jews (Moscow had the largest Jewish community in Europe along with Berlin, Vienna and Warsaw) are still present in significant numbers but are rather small communities now due to the history (WWII, anti-Semitism in the Soviet Union, Perestroika etc.)



(That's just the offical data without illegals, foreign nationals, naturalized citizens etc.)
Ethnic groups in Moscow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Moscow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Moscow - Moscow International Portal :: Population
Geez all this for a little comment I made, first of all the truth is no one thinks Moscow is diverse, Moscow is diverse kind of in another way, people that love there are from the country or from countries in the general area. In my opinion I still don't think Moscow is diverse in terms of people from all around the globe.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Not that many people know how integrated Houston is until you live here. I have for 15 years..But Toronto is the most diverse city in the world. (Lived there too!!) There are so many people of varing skin tones you have to guess their background by how their accent or language sounds;even then you may be off because of so many Mixed people.
Toronto has a high percentage of foreign born and with representation from over 200 ethnicities makes a very strong case.. Many are fairly recent immigrants/refugees as well.. I believe London and NYC have representation from a greater number of ethnicities but less percentage of foreign born.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Yeah, so cities Like LA and Detroit are multicultural, with one or two languages spoken and a handful of nationalities, but European cities with 200 languages spoken and 100 nationalities ain't?

So if a city is 50% Finnish and 50% Swedish it's not multicultural. But 50% American and 50% Mexican is.


Quite striking logic.
American cities are very diverse, some reports have shown that NYC speaks around 800 languages, here is the percentage and population of the ethics in NYC, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami and Chicago, if someone else could provide percentages of diversity in maybe cities like London, Sydney or Moscow, I would like to compare.


NYC
33% White
22% Black
12% Asian
28% Hispanic
1% Two or more races
and yeah those are the main races...

Los Angeles
28% White
9% Black
11% Asian
48% Hispanic
2% Two or more races


Houston

25% White
22% Black
5% Asian
44% Hispanic
1% Two or more races


Chicago

31% White
31% Black
5% Asian
29% Hispanic
1% Two or more races

Miami( this city isn't very diverse but its probably the least white city in America)

11% White
16% Black
1% Asian
70% Hispanic
0.3% Two or more races

All sources are from city data city profiles.
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