
11-16-2010, 10:57 AM
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Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Originally Posted by jaytr
Corruption is a big factor in inhibiting development and increasing income. Infrastructure is also critical--not just roads/highways, electricity, and airports, but also high-speed/broadband Internet access, beyond just big cities. Ease of doing business and setting up small businesses is important.
Focusing on "average income" is absolutely stupid (skewed by the incomes of the rich). "Median income" is much, much more important.
All that said, these are countries making big improvements and likely to be considered wealthy/developed in the next two decades:
Poland
Czech Republic
Slovenia
Croatia
Hungary
the Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)
Kazakhstan
Colombia
Not saying all of the above are perfect, but from all that I've read, they're well on their way.
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I live in Croatia and unless some gigantic change happens in the next few decades, there isn't even a theoretical chance that Croatia will be a real first World country in 2050. Slovenia is a bit better, but they probably won't be a real first World country either by 2050, Hungary is in even worse shape than Croatia, so I doubt they will amount to anything by 2050 either, the Baltic states are jokes. The Czech Republic will be the best of out of all of the countries on your list, in my opinion.
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11-16-2010, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeinChina
With 2/3 of the population living in the countryside, still making a living off of land, they have a long way to go. It will certainly be different in 2050 than what it is now, and I hope I'm alive to see the changes.........
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ha, i really hope they keep some of it that way. people living off the land and keeping it unspoiled. i don't think all development is great or necessarily equals higher quality life.
besides, no one lives a first world status life as defined by these organizations unless they have money. it doesn't matter what country you live in. if you have money, you can live a first world status life anywhere but if you don't, you can live like crap no matter where you are or be unhappy.
what is so first world or great about working for minimum wage or lower pay, in debt, in regular or old apartment/house and eating cheap food. that's not a great status for anyone.
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11-16-2010, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Purger
I live in Croatia and unless some gigantic change happens in the next few decades, there isn't even a theoretical chance that Croatia will be a real first World country in 2050. Slovenia is a bit better, but they probably won't be a real first World country either by 2050, Hungary is in even worse shape than Croatia, so I doubt they will amount to anything by 2050 either, the Baltic states are jokes. The Czech Republic will be the best of out of all of the countries on your list, in my opinion.
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to everyone saying east euroep you are wrong, to many small nations in EE that are extremely poor, Moldova the poorest country in Europe and one of the top poorest in the world has a GDP of 4,000, its poorer than any other south american country, and will not change soon, it has a high murder rate which will not bring investors to the country, same as the bahamas, its crime is out of control
uruguay has the best chance in south america, along with chile, brazil and argentina can either stay or improve hard to tell right now,
colombia has made big strides, its really nice, but still so close to mexico makes its difficult to advance.
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11-16-2010, 06:23 PM
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Location: New York
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LOL countries like the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary and Slovenia are already in the "very high human development" category, they belong to the European Union. If they are not 'developed' then what exactly is the definition of 'developed'?
And there is no country called "Eastern Europe". Moldova and Estonia are lightyears apart.
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11-17-2010, 03:58 PM
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In order of most likely to be developed by 2050
South America:
Chile
Brazil
Uruguay
Central America
Panama
Costa Rica
Sub-Saharan Africa (Possible, although unlikely)
Botswana
Kenya
Angola
Ethiopia
North Africa
Egypt
Algeria
Libya
Southeast Asia
Malaysia
Philippines
Western Asia
Qatar
Turkey
Bahrain
Kuwait
Central Asia (Possible, Unlikely)
Kazakhstan
Eastern and Southeastern Europe
Czech Republic
Slovenia
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11-17-2010, 04:41 PM
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Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Originally Posted by KB4
LOL countries like the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary and Slovenia are already in the "very high human development" category, they belong to the European Union. If they are not 'developed' then what exactly is the definition of 'developed'?
And there is no country called "Eastern Europe". Moldova and Estonia are lightyears apart.
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Go to Hungary, not just Budapest, but to the countryside and smaller cities as well, and if that is a developed country to you, then so is Croatia. That HDI is ****. According to it, Montenegro is more developed than Croatia, which anybody who has been to both countries or is from the former Yugoslavia, knows is a load of ****, ffs we have to export water to Montenegro because they can't meet their water needs and are too incompetent to build a desalinization plant.  I am not even going to comment on their road infrastructure and other things in which they are centuries behind Croatia.
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11-18-2010, 12:00 AM
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Location: Scotland
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uruguay, slovenia, chech rep, are developed. in south america nearly every country is behind uruguay in term of poverty, transport, jobs, wage, infrastructure etc. and in europe ukraine, moldova, montenegro, romania, greece, and others are worse of than slovenia and chech rep
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11-18-2010, 03:02 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by Betamaxx11
In order of most likely to be developed by 2050
South America:
Chile
Brazil
Uruguay
Central America
Panama
Costa Rica
Sub-Saharan Africa (Possible, although unlikely)
Botswana
Kenya
Angola
Ethiopia
North Africa
Egypt
Algeria
Libya
Southeast Asia
Malaysia
Philippines
Western Asia
Qatar
Turkey
Bahrain
Kuwait
Central Asia (Possible, Unlikely)
Kazakhstan
Eastern and Southeastern Europe
Czech Republic
Slovenia
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Czech Rep and Slovenia in the same bag as Kenya and Angola WOW These European countries are already more developed than most of US states. Have you ever been to anywhere farther than your back yard?
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11-18-2010, 04:20 PM
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I didn't put the regions in any particular order, just each country most likely to be developed in each region. I am not implying that Kenya and Angola will develop before the Czech Republic and Slovenia. It is more likely that the African countries will become Middle Income economies by 2050 rather than Developed Nations.
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11-18-2010, 10:52 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL
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USA is a developed country. There are many extremely rich people here who give this country such a reputation. But go to any big city and you will see areas where people live in much worse conditions than the poorest people in my native "undeveloped" Poland. USA is a developed country where only rich people can get medical treatment - I don't have a health insurance because I can't afford one, in Poland I had it for free. Here in Chicago many people live in basements like rats, in Poland nobody. So stop using the word "developed" because it's not accurate, "countries with high GDP per capita" - this sounds much better.
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