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Old 02-06-2017, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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From looking at Google maps, Russian and American cities are completely different. In Russia the majority of the people live in apartments near the city center and there are few if any suburban cities outside the main city boundaries. In the US most people live in single family homes that take up a lot of room and so most people end up living out side of the main city. This makes it a bit hard to compare the different styles of cities, do you compare the Russian city with the American city with the same population, or the urban area of that city which is considerably larger?

Is Moscow similar in size/class to New York or Los Angles?

City: pop | area (urban area pop | area)
Moscow: 12,197,596 | 2,511 km2 (N.A | N.A)
New York: 8,550,405 | 1,214 km2 (18,351,295 | 8,936 km2)
Los Angeles: 3,971,883 | 1,302 km2 (12,150,996 | 4,496.3 km2)

Is Saint Petersburg similar in size/class to Los Angles or Dallas?

Saint Petersburg: 5,191,690 | 1,439 km2 (N.A | N.A)
Los Angeles: 3,971,883 | 1,302 km2 (12,150,996 | 4,496.3 km2)
Dallas: 1,300,092 | 999 km2 (5,121,892 | 4,607.9 km2)

Is Novosibirsk similar in size/class to Philadelphia or Kansas City?

Novosibirsk: 1,567,087| 502.7 km2 (N.A | N.A)
Philadelphia: 1,567,442 | 367 km2 (5,441,567 | 5,131.7 km2)
Kansas City: 475,378 | 826.28 km2 (1,519,417 | 1,755.6 km2)

Or perhaps the cities in Russia and the US are so different that looking at population stats won't tell you much and instead you would have to base it off of economic output and amenities or some other criteria?
Perhaps sister cities?
Moscow: Chicago
Saint Petersburg: Los Angeles, St. Petersburg
Novosibirsk: Minneapolis-Saint Paul
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Russia
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From looking at Google maps, Russian and American cities are completely different. In Russia the majority of the people live in apartments near the city center and there are few if any suburban cities outside the main city boundaries. In the US most people live in single family homes that take up a lot of room and so most people end up living out side of the main city. This makes it a bit hard to compare the different styles of cities, do you compare the Russian city with the American city with the same population, or the urban area of that city which is considerably larger?

Is Moscow similar in size/class to New York or Los Angles?

City: pop | area (urban area pop | area)
Moscow: 12,197,596 | 2,511 km2 (N.A | N.A)
New York: 8,550,405 | 1,214 km2 (18,351,295 | 8,936 km2)
Los Angeles: 3,971,883 | 1,302 km2 (12,150,996 | 4,496.3 km2)

Is Saint Petersburg similar in size/class to Los Angles or Dallas?

Saint Petersburg: 5,191,690 | 1,439 km2 (N.A | N.A)
Los Angeles: 3,971,883 | 1,302 km2 (12,150,996 | 4,496.3 km2)
Dallas: 1,300,092 | 999 km2 (5,121,892 | 4,607.9 km2)

Is Novosibirsk similar in size/class to Philadelphia or Kansas City?

Novosibirsk: 1,567,087| 502.7 km2 (N.A | N.A)
Philadelphia: 1,567,442 | 367 km2 (5,441,567 | 5,131.7 km2)
Kansas City: 475,378 | 826.28 km2 (1,519,417 | 1,755.6 km2)

Or perhaps the cities in Russia and the US are so different that looking at population stats won't tell you much and instead you would have to base it off of economic output and amenities or some other criteria?
Perhaps sister cities?
Moscow: Chicago
Saint Petersburg: Los Angeles, St. Petersburg
Novosibirsk: Minneapolis-Saint Paul

I think that is not quite correct to compare the city with different climates.
Imagine what will happen if in the aforementioned American cities 90-150 days will be snow, and the temperature will be -10 -20 ° C. And heavy snow a couple of times a month is necessary.
Perhaps partly for this in Russian big cities relatively few private sector.
But pay attention to such Belgorod.Tut distances are not great and a lot of the private sector.
And the third time.
House in construction and maintenance is much more expensive than an apartment "anthill". Six months of the heating season that yes znachit.Da and construction costs are not cheap.
Now I build a house himself. Timber frame house made of plywood and drywall's not too godyatsya.Ih build, but it is considered to be the worst variant.Tak generally only build summer houses for rest in his land uchastke.Dlya residence built houses of different bricks, which is not cheap, though very thorough. This is her reason for which a lot of people prefer to have an apartment in an apartment building and a small summer mansion (villa called) for your summer vacation.
Something like that.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:33 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I think that is not quite correct to compare the city with different climates.
Imagine what will happen if in the aforementioned American cities 90-150 days will be snow, and the temperature will be -10 -20 ° C. And heavy snow a couple of times a month is necessary.
Perhaps partly for this in Russian big cities relatively few private sector.
But pay attention to such Belgorod.Tut distances are not great and a lot of the private sector.
And the third time.
House in construction and maintenance is much more expensive than an apartment "anthill". Six months of the heating season that yes znachit.Da and construction costs are not cheap.
Now I build a house himself. Timber frame house made of plywood and drywall's not too godyatsya.Ih build, but it is considered to be the worst variant.Tak generally only build summer houses for rest in his land uchastke.Dlya residence built houses of different bricks, which is not cheap, though very thorough. This is her reason for which a lot of people prefer to have an apartment in an apartment building and a small summer mansion (villa called) for your summer vacation.
Something like that.
Thank you for your answer, but what I wanted to know was how large are Russian cities? Is a Russian city with a population of 1,000,000 going to be the equivalent of a major US city such as Philadelphia or a mid sized city such as Salt Lake City? Also I don't think climate plays that big of a role in the difference of housing. Canada and Alaska has very similar climate to those in Russia and yet they are still dominanted by single family homes. The reason why Russian cities are dominated by apartments is because of soviet planning. People were moving into the cities from rural areas at a very fast rate, so they just built a bunch of cheap apartments. Also you can compare two cities with very different climates and still be able to say if they are of similar size, for instance Philadelphia is about the same size as Miami. They are very different but the same size.
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Old 02-07-2017, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Thank you for your answer, but what I wanted to know was how large are Russian cities? Is a Russian city with a population of 1,000,000 going to be the equivalent of a major US city such as Philadelphia or a mid sized city such as Salt Lake City? Also I don't think climate plays that big of a role in the difference of housing. Canada and Alaska has very similar climate to those in Russia and yet they are still dominanted by single family homes. The reason why Russian cities are dominated by apartments is because of soviet planning. People were moving into the cities from rural areas at a very fast rate, so they just built a bunch of cheap apartments. Also you can compare two cities with very different climates and still be able to say if they are of similar size, for instance Philadelphia is about the same size as Miami. They are very different but the same size.
I walked on Filadelfii.Goroda completely raznye.Obliki them probably because historically. In Russia there was a central building in the US during the formation of the city's appearance, the authorities were selling land for private zastroyku.Navernoe it was. Now Russia was also to appear a lot of private construction, for this case, there are programma.V Belgorod example in the city (20 minutes to the center), the state provides a building plots for a nominal price, but with the condition to build a house for five let.Dom can be absolutely anyone, only to meet the minimum requirements.
About the climate, I just said in the context of the design gorodov.Proektirovali very, very competent people, but also something what proschitalis.Naprimer no one in those days, and in a nightmare could not imagine an abnormal number of private cars, because it turns out that a large the number of ineffective traffic that uses a bunch of extra money and prevents the mechanism of city work.

Few Belgorod

https://www.google.ru/maps/place/%D0...%BE%D0%B4,+%D0 % 91% D0% B5% D0% BB% D0% B3% D0% BE% D1% 80% D0% BE% D0% B4% D1% 81% D0% BA% D0% B0% D1% 8F +% D0% BE % D0% B1% D0% BB ./@ 50.5495921,36.5438253,3a, 60y, 90h, 93.34t, 1.21r / data = 3m6 1e1 3m4 1scLv_XICH2E80AztdJVHVyw 2e0 7i13312 8i6656 4m5 3m4 1s0x41266af42d5c5863!!!!!!!!!!: 0xc4cfd2138d424649! 8m2! 3d50.5997134! 4d36.5982621! 6m1! 1e1

It is a pity only photos in Google tarenkie probably three years they have. Now everything is much izmenilos.Gorod rapidly growing and developing.


a little hard communicate through an interpreter.

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Old 02-07-2017, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I walked on Filadelfii.Goroda completely raznye.Obliki them probably because historically. In Russia there was a central building in the US during the formation of the city's appearance, the authorities were selling land for private zastroyku.Navernoe it was. Now Russia was also to appear a lot of private construction, for this case, there are programma.V Belgorod example in the city (20 minutes to the center), the state provides a building plots for a nominal price, but with the condition to build a house for five let.Dom can be absolutely anyone, only to meet the minimum requirements.
About the climate, I just said in the context of the design gorodov.Proektirovali very, very competent people, but also something what proschitalis.Naprimer no one in those days, and in a nightmare could not imagine an abnormal number of private cars, because it turns out that a large the number of ineffective traffic that uses a bunch of extra money and prevents the mechanism of city work.

Few Belgorod

https://www.google.ru/maps/place/%D0...2621! 6m1! 1e1

It is a pity only photos in Google tarenkie probably three years they have. Now everything is much izmenilos.Gorod rapidly growing and developing.


a little hard communicate through an interpreter.

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It's ok, я всё понимаю. You are doing great!
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Russia
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It's ok, я всё понимаю. You are doing great!
Happy to help )))
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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Not a fan of American cities and their enormous boring bland suburbias where u need a car to even go to the supermarket!

I however find Russian cities to be depressing, full of commie blocks, and weird looking.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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But since you bring up Belgorod which has a population of 384,425, would it be the size of / act like a city such as Cleveland with a population of 388,072 or a city like Augusta with a population of 386,787 when adding up all the nearby suburbs. In the US Cleveland would be considered a midsize city, not supper big but not small either, whereas Augusta would be considered as a large town. So if Belgorod where to be plopped somewhere in the US, would Americans consider it a midsize city, or a large town?
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Not a fan of American cities and their enormous boring bland suburbias where u need a car to even go to the supermarket!

I however find Russian cities to be depressing, full of commie blocks, and weird looking.
You mean depressive multistory areas? Just translator has translated more than enough, as well as my English.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Russia
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But since you bring up Belgorod which has a population of 384,425, would it be the size of / act like a city such as Cleveland with a population of 388,072 or a city like Augusta with a population of 386,787 when adding up all the nearby suburbs. In the US Cleveland would be considered a midsize city, not supper big but not small either, whereas Augusta would be considered as a large town. So if Belgorod where to be plopped somewhere in the US, would Americans consider it a midsize city, or a large town?
Belgorod is considered medium-sized. Yes.
Large is already on 1000 000 people, but I do not like in megacities, although there and work with interesting and razvlecheniyami.No all that negates the traffic and distance.

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