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Old 11-05-2012, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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FDR yeah buddy.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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9. Albert Einstein
If you could put him on the list, you could also make a case for William Shakespeare.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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Tovarish Stalin, of course.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore. But it's debatable.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Tovarish Stalin, of course.
Some of you people in Central Asia are pretty fucked up.
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:23 AM
 
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this is subjective

I will say tupac amaru (the incan emperor of peru)
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:37 AM
 
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Some of you people in Central Asia are pretty fucked up.
Tovarish Stalin had done everything for my country what "democratic presidents" have screwed up during these last 23 years. It doesn't mean I want him back in our days but he was the best in certain time and in certain place. And I know about everything he did wrong too. But show me the perfect ruler if you can.
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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But show me the perfect ruler if you can.
I won't, but calling Stalin the best leader is pretty sickening.
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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Tovarish Stalin had done everything for my country what "democratic presidents" have screwed up during these last 23 years. It doesn't mean I want him back in our days but he was the best in certain time and in certain place. And I know about everything he did wrong too. But show me the perfect ruler if you can.
Hitler did a lot of good things for his country too in certain time and in certain place. but I would not call him the best ruler.
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:56 AM
 
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I won't, but calling Stalin the best leader is pretty sickening.
The perfect ruler is that one who did nothing.

Why I called Stalin the best leader? Because he took a country ruined by the revolution, civil war and foreign intervention and turned it to the country which had won in the WWII and had powerful industry, powerful army and the nuke bomb. Nobody but him could accomplish what he did.

It's just my opinion, not propaganda. I'm not going to convince you.
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