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Old 06-13-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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I've seen both ways used on the Internet and I was curious which one was correct. I always thought that "hear, hear" was the correct way to spell the term -- as in "I hear you and I agree with you!"

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Hear, hear vs. here, here - Grammarist
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'm with you - "hear, hear" is the correct version. I always interpreted it as meaning "everybody listen to this guy - he's right!"

Now that I've read the linked article, I see that the OED agrees also.
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Windham County, VT
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I've seen both ways used on the Internet and I was curious which one was correct. I always thought that "hear, hear" was the correct way to spell the term -- as in "I hear you and I agree with you!"

There is a lively discussion in the comments on this site:

Hear, hear vs. here, here - Grammarist
Didn't look at your link, but I'll offer up my layperson's opinion-
Hear, hear is agreement, hurrah, cheers, encore, "yes, please, more of the same".
Here, here is dissent, hold up & wait a minute-not so fast, "now see here, young man".
I could be wrong on both counts, but this is my uneducated impression, FWIW.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Oyez Oyez. The traditional call for the audience to pay attention to the speaker. Translates as hear hear.

I'm going to agree with Cloven about the here here, although I have never seen it used that way, To me, it would sounds like serious agreement, when it would be intended to mean the opposite. "Now see here" would be the more common usage to indicate disagreement.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:23 AM
 
Location: NW Indiana
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Didn't look at your link, but I'll offer up my layperson's opinion-
Hear, hear is agreement, hurrah, cheers, encore, "yes, please, more of the same".
Here, here is dissent, hold up & wait a minute-not so fast, "now see here, young man".
I could be wrong on both counts, but this is my uneducated impression, FWIW.
I agree. This is always how I've understood these phrases.

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Old 06-14-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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As far as I know, "here here" is just plain incorrect. It is, and has always been, "hear hear."
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Didn't look at your link, but I'll offer up my layperson's opinion-
Hear, hear is agreement, hurrah, cheers, encore, "yes, please, more of the same".
Here, here is dissent, hold up & wait a minute-not so fast, "now see here, young man".
I could be wrong on both counts, but this is my uneducated impression, FWIW.
It would seem to present some difficulties if two phrases that sound identical possessed meanings that were exact opposites of one another. Luckily no one really says either variation anymore
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Windham County, VT
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I agree. This is always how I've understood these phrases.

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Appreciate the validation of my perspective on these, I don't claim to be an expert grammarian.
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It would seem to present some difficulties if two phrases that sound identical possessed meanings that were exact opposites of one another. Luckily no one really says either variation anymore
Hearing them verbally, it would be well-nigh impossible to discern, though tone of voice could help.
Seeing the accompanied hand gestures would make them more clear.

For assent (hear, hear), I'd picture raised drinks glasses, fists, etc.
For dissent (here, here) I'd picture an upraised hand ("stop" gesture)

That's just how my mind categorizes & envisions these,
whether or not there really is (formally) a difference.
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Yes, there would have to be context. Not for the hear hear, which has a clear meaning, but for the here here, which would be very unusual.

I have fairly commonly heard "here now" for disagreement. But never here here. I think it could be used, but tone of voice would make all the difference.
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Old 06-15-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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It would be silly to be in a meeting and use here, here as dissent. The only reason would be to confuse and call attention to oneself. The secretary would have to stop the meeting so as to verify what was meant, since it is incorrect usage.
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