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Old 01-31-2017, 12:55 AM
 
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Hello,
Friendly debate at work. We send out a report to management with a log of any delays and/or complete holds ("stops") to our workday due to various factors. The sentence is "The stop was in effect ____ 00:00AM/PM until 00:00AM/PM due to weather/traffic/system maintenance etc.." I believe that the correct word to use is FROM; but coworker disagrees and says "FOR".


"The stop was in effect FOR 1:00PM until 3:00PM due to........"
"The stop was in effect FROM 1:00PM until 3:00PM due to........"






Which one is correct; and if so, can you cite sources? Are they both correct? Neither? I was unable to find anything online.


Oh, what it is worth, the original sentence example we were told to use several years ago used the word "from", but coworker, again, insists that is grammatically incorrect!


Thanks for your assistance.
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Old 01-31-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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From is correct.

My source is being 65, having read thousands of books and writing professionally for 40 years.
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Old 01-31-2017, 08:38 AM
 
Location: north bama
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there are 10 different uses for for in my dictionary .. then one i think applies here is # 9 .. it states that for can be used as a function word to indicate duration of time or extent of space ... so to me in that form for your sentence to use for properly it would need to be stated like this .." The stop will be in effect for two hours ... From only has 3 descriptions but the one i think applies to your case states " a starting point in measuring or reckoning in a statement of limits ... hence from 1 until 3 PM ...... that`s the hardest iv`e used my brain in years ,,,

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Old 01-31-2017, 01:05 PM
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I have no idea how "for" could be correct in that phrase.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Cochise County, AZ
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I found this neat little quiz and I believe it has your answer. For, since, from
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:02 AM
 
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My ear tells me that "from" is correct. The only way "for" works is to expand the phrase to say

"the stop was in effect for the time period of...", in which case "from" is far more concise.
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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My ear tells me that "from" is correct. The only way "for" works is to expand the phrase to say

"the stop was in effect for the time period of...", in which case "from" is far more concise.
I figured. Maybe I'll ask for a source citing he's correct...or just drop it.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:21 AM
 
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I found something online, like what you believed.

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You will be on the safest path if you remember but this: If you use “Since”, don’t use “Until”. If you use “Since” or “Until”, don’t use “For”. And if you use “From” and “To”, don’t use any of the others.
https://englishmatsuri.wordpress.com...l-from-and-to/

In fact, my wondering is different than your main question, I'm wondering about using from --- to instead of using from --- until in your sentence.

Which better in usage here?
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Dessert
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I think the phrasing should be

In effect from 2 until 5 p.m. (though I would prefer "to" over "until")
Or
In effect for three hours.

"From" indicates a starting point, and "until" or "to" the end point.
"For" suggests a total amount of time.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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from is correct.

Source is having read thousands of similar reports and writing for a living for 30 years (writing letters, briefs, contracts, and arguments, not books. I am a lawyer).
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