Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Writing
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-17-2020, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Texas
13,480 posts, read 8,380,774 times
Reputation: 25948

Advertisements

When you submit your writings to a publisher or for a writing contest, how can you ensure they won't try to plagiarize your work?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-17-2020, 04:24 PM
 
19,126 posts, read 25,327,931 times
Reputation: 25434
You should copyright it, prior to submission.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-17-2020, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
13,480 posts, read 8,380,774 times
Reputation: 25948
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retriever View Post
You should copyright it, prior to submission.
okay. What does that involve?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-17-2020, 05:05 PM
 
Location: North America
4,430 posts, read 2,707,461 times
Reputation: 19315
Quote:
Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
When you submit your writings to a publisher or for a writing contest, how can you ensure they won't try to plagiarize your work?
They have better things to do - like publishing.

I mean, sure, it's possible. It's also possible that when you take your car to a repair shop, they'll chop it and part it out and claim they never saw you. But the odds of that are extremely long. They have better (and less criminally liable) things to do. Just like publishers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retriever View Post
You should copyright it, prior to submission.
Any fixed document - a paper manuscript, a Word file on a hard drive - is automatically copyrighted at creation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-17-2020, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
13,480 posts, read 8,380,774 times
Reputation: 25948
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2x3x29x41 View Post
They have better things to do - like publishing.

I mean, sure, it's possible. It's also possible that when you take your car to a repair shop, they'll chop it and part it out and claim they never saw you. But the odds of that are extremely long. They have better (and less criminally liable) things to do. Just like publishers.



Any fixed document - a paper manuscript, a Word file on a hard drive - is automatically copyrighted at creation.
I didn't realize this.

So would it be fairly safe for me to publish my short story on my linkedin profile? I am linked in with a lot of other creative writers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2020, 04:27 AM
 
Location: North America
4,430 posts, read 2,707,461 times
Reputation: 19315
Quote:
Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
I didn't realize this.

So would it be fairly safe for me to publish my short story on my linkedin profile? I am linked in with a lot of other creative writers.
Safe? Sure.

Be advised that previous publication - even just throwing it out on the internet - will lessen your chances of ever selling it. While some publishers will consider previously-published material, a lot of them are only interested in original material.

Now, that doesn't mean some yahoo won't see it and try to submit it. But if it's something that can be sold. If you can do that, great. If you can't, someone else probably can't, either. Anyway, I would think most respectable publishers would at least do some simply google searches on unique word-strings to make sure a submission isn't out there in the electronic wild.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2020, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
88,580 posts, read 84,777,093 times
Reputation: 115100
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2x3x29x41 View Post
Safe? Sure.

Be advised that previous publication - even just throwing it out on the internet - will lessen your chances of ever selling it. While some publishers will consider previously-published material, a lot of them are only interested in original material.

Now, that doesn't mean some yahoo won't see it and try to submit it. But if it's something that can be sold. If you can do that, great. If you can't, someone else probably can't, either. Anyway, I would think most respectable publishers would at least do some simply google searches on unique word-strings to make sure a submission isn't out there in the electronic wild.
^ Yup. Just like City-Data mods do when we suspect someone is trying to pass off copyrighted material as their own post.

As with this forum, it's a legal issue for the publisher.
__________________
Moderator posts are in RED.
City-Data Terms of Service: //www.city-data.com/terms.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2020, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
6,341 posts, read 4,903,282 times
Reputation: 17999
Quote:
Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
I didn't realize this.

So would it be fairly safe for me to publish my short story on my linkedin profile? I am linked in with a lot of other creative writers.
Fairly safe. But much safer if you register the work with the US Copyright Office.


https://www.copyright.gov/registration/
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2020, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
29,218 posts, read 22,361,490 times
Reputation: 23858
Quote:
Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
I didn't realize this.

So would it be fairly safe for me to publish my short story on my linkedin profile? I am linked in with a lot of other creative writers.
Linkedin is not a good place to publish your fiction. Unless you want to just allow your story to be read for free, that is.

Think. Who's going to pay for a story after it's been published in a spot where anyone can read it for free?
Allowing it to be read for free also means copyright protection doesn't matter enough to warrant copyrighting it.

If you want a critique from other creative writers, then copyright the story and contact some writers to see if they will give you a critique. Send it by email to them if they agree to read it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2020, 03:01 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
24,120 posts, read 32,468,260 times
Reputation: 68363
Quote:
Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
When you submit your writings to a publisher or for a writing contest, how can you ensure they won't try to plagiarize your work?
You can't always. It happened to me. Albeit, a very, very long time ago. Perhaps this could not happen today. This was in the 1970s. I was a college student.

When one sends an article to a magazine, and it is rejected - and not returned, at least back then, there was a strong possibility of this.

It happened to me with an unsolicited article that I submitted to the legendary, "Rolling Stone" magazine. The practice at the time was to return the manuscript. I never received one from that periodical.

The article did land me a job as a staff writer at "New York Rocker". It was about the Ramones, and their manager at the time, Danny Fields, offered me a job as an assistant. That was also good.

While the late and legendary "Village Voice" Rock and Jazz editor, Robert Christgau read the piece, and responded with a letter of encouragement. I have it framed.

About six months later, I found an article in "Rolling Stone" that was basically a retooling of mine, with a thinly altered title.

I called Kurt Loder, who wrote "The Ramones Ain't Stupid" after reading my "The Ramones Are Not Dumb", "dumb" taken from a Ramone's song lyric.

When I called him, Mr. Loder lashed out with profamily and epithets while walning me not to go public with this. My parents wanted to sue. I was not in favor of it at the time.

In retrospect, I wish I had taken their help.

My mother suggested that I use a "poor man's copywrite", which was essentially, sending the letter to yourself, and not opening it, which proved when you wrote the submission.

This still haunts me to this day.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Writing
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:49 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top