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Yeah... Rochelle is a coal mine that's owned by Peabody (Powder River Coal Co). The training your husband just completed was probably MSHA and his on-site. Those will allow him to enter and do the site-specific classes (usually involving 1/2 hour or so video and a small test) at each of the mine sites he will be going.
PR does have a big operation in Gillette.... there's actually a couple shops at their location off of Sinclair. I've never been to the Sheridan shop... we have a store over there as well so I don't service them in that area.
Yeah you are right, my husband was at MSHA when I asked him. My husband said the shop in Sheridan, is about a third of the size of the one in Gillette, to me the one in Sheridan, is big for a HVAC shop (It just opened recently, so is still fairly new, it's on Gillette St. in Sheridan)... I bet Gillette's is huge, especially if they have several buildings... that is really great though and the owner sounds like a really nice guy He is a former service tech also, so he not only has business knowledge but knowledge in the actual trade and customer service which I think is a big plus...
Well said. I agree with what you wrote here, too. I have lived most of my life in California, and enjoyed it in my younger years. By the time I was in High School, I could see my old neighborhood changing for the worse. Housing prices were out of reach for most people starting families (as I was soon to do), and that was only a fraction of what they have become recently. I had (and still have) a good job that is becoming a career. I didn't want to give that up, but didn't want to live in the area where I grew up due to the crime and pollution, as well as the political climate of the area. I moved out to a rural area that was lower priced and much more conservative than the area I left behind. I have been here for over 15 years now, and unfortunately, the stuff I left behind is creeping in. It's bad enough living in a state with these socialist policies where my voice is not represented outside of my local area, but now I'm losing that voice here, too. I also like my guns and don't need the government telling me what to do, because I can think and act on my own. I don't need the government to run my life, because I can handle that on my own. I just want to be left alone to live my life according to my own ideals, beliefs, and values, and unfortunately, the rest of the people in this state don't seem to want to do so. I am planning to head to Wyoming when I retire because it is one of the few places in the country that still supports my values. I don't want to change anything about the state, because I like it the way it is. People take care of themselves and each other, and don't need or expect the government to do so for them. This, in my opinion, is how it should be.
If I hear someone say that, "Well, it's those Californians moving in with bunches of money" that are driving the cost of everything up I'm going to scream. or "those rich snooty folks from back east."
As far as I've seen, there aren't any planes of Californians unloading with suitcases of cash to snap up overpriced dumpy ranch style homes. If one or two buy a large ranch or luxury home in the mountains it doesn't neccessarily drive prices in town up based on market comparisons.
The rich snooty folks from back east? Again, they aren't going to mess with some little dump in town that's worth 120, but priced at 350K and hasn't been renovated since 1945. Nope. They'll buy, again, a large gentleman's ranch or build in the country - they wouldn't touch the stuff in town, most know better.
So, want to know what I think is driving up the prices? Middle class people moving in from other states for the CBM industry, young couples moving in that don't have much money but overpay for dumps anyway because they need a larger place to live.. and guess who is driving those housing prices up? LOCALS. The locals are making 150K plus on their houses by taking advantage of the housing shortage so they are moving up and are being dumb enough to buy 429K new homes that should be worth 225K..
and by the way, The Powder Horn, that "supposed pillar of out of state wealth."??? 85% of homeowners are from the state of Wyoming.
Just had to give my opinion as I'm soooo sick of hearing "It's those Californians"
Someone let me know when the planeloads of "californians with cash" start arriving.
I agree! California is west of here- unless we are standing on our heads which will make the brain messed up-could be standing on mine-but hardly ever get lost!
I'd wager that most of them made even a half-hearted attempt at negotiating when buying new housing.
When I have remarked on Sheridan prices while looking at houses, here's a quote from two different agents:
"The only people who aren't put off by Sheridan prices are Californians."
First time was curious, the second time put up a flag.
As I was pointing out above, it doesn't take "plane loads" of Californians to drive up the price. It takes a handful who look at an absurd price in a non-CA market and say "Hey, that's cheaper than California... what a bargain." The way realtors use comps to set prices, plus easy loan appraisal standards do the rest.
Silocon valley is on it"s way-prices for land to build the corporate headquarters are cheap here-selling out there will be a write off- thank the good lord they don"t need water-only computers to run their companys? Good or bad? Time will tell?
I totally agree with you until there is accountability on both sides things will not change... More people need to refuse to throw their money at over priced builders and the builders will have no choice but to come down...
Sorry! This town is soaring like an eagle-You may want to wait-have some patients-gather a few bucks-get on the list of a good reputible company- or better yet- get all the books on a do it your self-you will be surprised on how much you and friends know and can do on your own-Most home constrution is very basic and easy to understand-even to the point of only needing an inspector -or electriction for final hook ups! It's fun and rewarding to DO IT YOURSELF! Not near as complicated as a contractor will tell you it is-draw your own plans an go for it!
Just as an example how 2 Wyo ppl selling out to a Florida developer - sold out something like 750 acres for about 131 MANSIONS (I do mean that literally - the lots themselves start at $200K) in a gated community in the Wapiti Valley on the way to Y'stone from Cody. Is right in the middle of prime winter range for the wildlife - everything from elk to bison - and will have a GIGANTIC impact on our well water availability (this is near-desert area), sewer - which wioll be septics right by the Shoshone River which is where Cody & many other towns in the Big Horn Basin get their water, and not even touching the impact on the infrastructure such as the highway into town that was just re-built about 10 years ago. We fought it basin-wide for several years but the guys with the deep pockets won out. There are to be a few multi-fam dwellings in there as well on final impact statement as I recall. I got so PO'ed at the whole thing I quit even reading about it. The county tried - REALLY tried to keep it from happening - but so many loopholes because Wyo really never expected this sort of fight on its hands. And I can tell you right NOW I know that of the new homes there are 12 are bought by Californians, 3 from Massachusetts, 6 from Colorado, & who knows others? But I do know NOBODY from the Big Horn Basin has made any purchase in Copperleaf. AND, despite what the below citations say, it is not a "hodge podge" of homes. There are historic ranches & scattered homes up a 52 mile highway to Y'stone. Yes - I would rather have the house here & there than a huge neighborhood in wintering lands for the wildlife. The impact on the wildlife is going to be insane between losing the habitat & having a GATED community to find their way around. So, don't sit there & tell me what's going on in this part of the state that is having a TREMENDOUS impact on our entire infrastructure not to mention availability of water & their leach fields within about 200-300 yards from our drinking water. Called Copperleaf if anybody interested. Moderator cut: link to realitor ad not allowed.
Cody Enterprise: News about Cody, Wyoming, and Yellowstone Country (http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2007/09/10/news/news4.txt - broken link) - in THAT article, the last comment mentions that the public should have purchased the land. UNFORTUNATELY the 2 ranchers selling the land to Copperleaf would sell to the public only if they purchased nearly twice as much for nearly 1.75% as much per acre. So, they prevented that from happening.
Cody Enterprise: News about Cody, Wyoming, and Yellowstone Country (http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2004/12/01/news/news1.txt - broken link) (Note Lynne Bama's comments - she is a life-long resident & husband is Jim Bama, reknown Wyo artist / scuptor.)
I GUESS YOU HAVE OPENED A FEW MINDS! WE KNOW-BUT WHO ELSE CARES? SOME DAY WHEN THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO WORK? BLESS YA ! YA STILL HAVE THE FIGHTING SPIRIT! THEY'LL HAVE TO DRAG ME OUT FROM UNDER MY ROCK OF FREEDOM!
Sorry! This town is soaring like an eagle-You may want to wait-have some patients-gather a few bucks-get on the list of a good reputible company- or better yet- get all the books on a do it your self-you will be surprised on how much you and friends know and can do on your own-Most home constrution is very basic and easy to understand-even to the point of only needing an inspector -or electriction for final hook ups! It's fun and rewarding to DO IT YOURSELF! Not near as complicated as a contractor will tell you it is-draw your own plans an go for it!
Our original plan was to wait out the soaring prices till they come down and save some money and do things the proper way...
However... the ranch lady here has given us several hints she wants us out of this rental, even though we never cause a problem, always pay rent on time and keep to ourselves... we are caught in middle of her who lives on this ranch and her brother who owns the trailer we live in and takes the rent... I have heard from more and more people that have dealt with this lady in town how flighty she is... I am afraid if I don't beat her to it, she will kick us off her property cause she wants to use it as a guest house again and remodel her bathroom in her farm house but needs ours (we have heard this from her brother), or just because she wants to for no other reason... This lady has thousands of acres, and just got done kicking off some local people's horses they were boarding here because one got sick, and they were paying her to just let them stay in the pasture and for hay, not like she doesn't have enough acreage to go around... She is not the typical wyoming rancher at all, very unfriendly reclusive person... But that is a whole other story...
so basically we have been forced to find another rental and if we can't find one we have to buy... I feel really uneasy about paying someone else's mortgage payment to rent their place... because I can go out and get a manufactured home or modular on a piece of land in Buffalo, for close to the same price of rent... so if I am forced to pay a high price I would rather it be to get ahead rather than get someone else ahead on their mortgage... does that make sense?
We are going to try to do what we can do ourselves to save money too... my husband was an electrician in Louisiana cause they don't require licensing there, he has certification/degree. But we have to check to see if the county would let him hook up our own electrical and then get a journeyman here to sign off of it for us. So we would try to do things like that here and there to save us money...
Just not how we planned it to be, we planned to stay where we were at renting for a couple years if need be, even though I can't stand it cause it doesn't heat or cool worth a darn... but that plan has come to an end and we have no where to go really
So we are just going to take the lemons in life and try to make lemonade aka the best of the situation...
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Our original plan was to wait out the soaring prices till they come down and save some money and do things the proper way...
However... the ranch lady here has given us several hints she wants us out of this rental, even though we never cause a problem, always pay rent on time and keep to ourselves... we are caught in middle of her who lives on this ranch and her brother who owns the trailer we live in and takes the rent... I have heard from more and more people that have dealt with this lady in town how flighty she is... I am afraid if I don't beat her to it, she will kick us off her property cause she wants to use it as a guest house again and remodel her bathroom in her farm house but needs ours (we have heard this from her brother), or just because she wants to for no other reason... This lady has thousands of acres, and just got done kicking off some local people's horses they were boarding here because one got sick, and they were paying her to just let them stay in the pasture and for hay, not like she doesn't have enough acreage to go around... She is not the typical wyoming rancher at all, very unfriendly reclusive person... But that is a whole other story...
so basically we have been forced to find another rental and if we can't find one we have to buy... I feel really uneasy about paying someone else's mortgage payment to rent their place... because I can go out and get a manufactured home or modular on a piece of land in Buffalo, for close to the same price of rent... so if I am forced to pay a high price I would rather it be to get ahead rather than get someone else ahead on their mortgage... does that make sense?
We are going to try to do what we can do ourselves to save money too... my husband was an electrician in Louisiana cause they don't require licensing there, he has certification/degree. But we have to check to see if the county would let him hook up our own electrical and then get a journeyman here to sign off of it for us. So we would try to do things like that here and there to save us money...
Just not how we planned it to be, we planned to stay where we were at renting for a couple years if need be, even though I can't stand it cause it doesn't heat or cool worth a darn... but that plan has come to an end and we have no where to go really
So we are just going to take the lemons in life and try to make lemonade aka the best of the situation...
Makes a lot of sense Are you working with any reality company at this time? With your rental history etc. they may be able to hook you up? Don't give up the ship!LIKE YOGI SAID IT AIN'T OVER TELL IT"S OVER-GUESS THAT MEANS NEVER? Would also say without a certified license-you and hubby could do anything -the experts will have to throw the breakers! Hang in there-something good is gonna come your way! Bless you guys!
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He is a former service tech also, so he not only has business knowledge but knowledge in the actual trade and customer service which I think is a big plus...
