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Old 04-01-2014, 04:47 PM
 
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We will keep driving north to CMC or Presby! No Piedmont for us. To many family member having more negative than positive experiences. I still feel sorry for the man several years ago that was having a leg removed and they removed the WRONG leg! The leg that was supposed to be removed was marked and everything.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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Default Judge Phillip Lenski's Ruling

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Public Support and Opposition
80. DHEC received more than 5,000 letters of support for Piedmont, and thirty-four (34) letters of opposition. A number of the Piedmont support letters were critical of CHS, but were not counted by DHEC as opposition letters to CHS. DHEC also received more than 5,000 support letters for CHS and no letters of opposition. Some of the CHS letters of support were critical of Piedmont, however, these were not counted by DHEC as opposition letters to Piedmont.
Read the entire ruling here:
http://media.heraldonline.com/smedia...9mJeF.So.6.pdf

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Residents also sent more than 24,000 letters of support for the three applicants to DHEC. Presbyterian alone had 10,004 letters of support.
http://www.heraldonline.com/2011/09/...-gets-nod.html
What's the point of even having the Certificate of Need process with public input if it isn't even going to be considered???
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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Here is the conclusion from the ruling, word for word:
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44. This court concludes that either applicant would be capable of providing high quality healthcare services at its proposed Fort Mill area hospital. One of the principal differences between the two applicants is that the approval of CMC-FM would have the effect of causing the erosion of quality of care at Piedmont and among specialists practicing there as a result of the diminution in the volume of patients and the degradation of the payor mix of the patients who would continue to be seen at Piedmont. Consequently, there would be no hospital in York County providing many of the high quality and tertiary services that Piedmont has added. Alternatively, the establishment of FMMC will ensure that high quality services continue to be added and provided within York County.
So we can't have a high-quality hospital in York County, because we don't want the low-quality hospital to lose business...???

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IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the Department shall issue the CON application to Amisub of South Carolina, Inc. cUb/a Piedmont Medical Center d/b/a Fort Mill Medical Center for the purpose of building a 100 bed general acute care hospital in York County, South Carolina.
AND IT IS SO ORDERED.
I guess the silver lining is that DHEC isn't issuing Certificate of Needs anymore, so Judge Lenski can order all he wants, but nothing is going to happen.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:10 AM
 
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This has nothing to do with what is best for the people. It is totally for the cash. Either the taxes or the money generated in FM to keep the original Piedmont on life support. There would be no negative impact for the people if this ruling was in CMC's favor. CMC would pick up any slack anywhere in York county if there was a need.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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I've not seen one "Yay!" in response to PMC getting the award for this hospital. Not.a.single.one. Every response I've seen thus far has said, "Looks like I'll continue to drive to Charlotte/Pineville for my healthcare!"

While I wish CHS had won, at this point I hope they hang up their spurs and just let PMC build. They won't lose any customers - in fact, they will most likely gain more once some of the new people moving to Fort Mill try the new PMC hospital and realize it's completely sub-par. Word of mouth will spread fast with that one.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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While I wish CHS had won, at this point I hope they hang up their spurs and just let PMC build. They won't lose any customers - in fact, they will most likely gain more once some of the new people moving to Fort Mill try the new PMC hospital and realize it's completely sub-par. Word of mouth will spread fast with that one.
I think this whole "Certificate of Need" program needs to go away. All it has done is delay a hospital in Fort Mill for over a decade, and even if Piedmont does build, they say it won't be open till 2018.

We should just let both companies build a hospital in Fort Mill, and let the people decide which one they want to go to. At the rate Fort Mill is growing, we will probably need two of them anyways.
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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The "Certificate of Need" is not a program, it is a South Carolina Law. Haley vetoed the funding to DHEC for "Certificate of Need" and the SC House of Reps agreed with Haley. So without funds DHEC suspends their participation and tells hospitals to do what you want to do.

But, DHEC can't do that, because it is on the books and is a SC Law. Now the SC Supreme Court has to decide what agency is going to enforce the "Certificate of Need Law." The court heard arguments last month and this needs to be resolved.

What a mess!!!!
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:46 AM
 
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Well, we can mark legal fees off our tax dollars. The Cultural & Heritage/Cultural Heritage Foundation and York County have arrived at a Mediation Settlement, if all goes as stated in the Settlement. CHS has already purchased some of the land from the Cultural Heritage Foundation for the new CHS hospital.

http://media.heraldonline.com/smedia...orylink=relast

I assume clear heads finally prevailed and they realized the legal fees were mounting up.

But we still have the Morningstar Ministries lawsuit against York County and that darn building falling apart Morningstar won't demolish.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:47 AM
 
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.....But we still have the Morningstar Ministries lawsuit against York County and that darn building falling apart Morningstar won't demolish.
My husband calls that an insane asylum, it looks like someplace out of a horror movie. So sad that this eye sore still sits there.
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:50 AM
 
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The "Certificate of Need" is not a program, it is a South Carolina Law. Haley vetoed the funding to DHEC for "Certificate of Need" and the SC House of Reps agreed with Haley. So without funds DHEC suspends their participation and tells hospitals to do what you want to do.

But, DHEC can't do that, because it is on the books and is a SC Law. Now the SC Supreme Court has to decide what agency is going to enforce the "Certificate of Need Law." The court heard arguments last month and this needs to be resolved.
It will be interesting to see what the SC Supreme Court decides.

If they decide that the CON isn't needed anymore, then we will probably see at least 2 new hospitals in Fort Mill pretty soon.

If the court upholds the CON, then the legislature will either need to change the law, or we will be stuck in legal limbo between DHEC and the legislature fighting for funding. Fort Mill could be waiting a very long time if this occurs.
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