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Old 12-17-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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I noticed that several Fort Mill schools saw a drop in their Greatschools ratings to 7s and 8s for 2017. Sugar Creek, Fort Mill Elementary, and Springfield ES are all 7s now. Also Orchard Park and Riverview are 8s this year. I've never seen any of the Fort Mill schools rated below an 8 in the past (normally all of them are 9s or 10s with maybe one or two 8s). Does anyone know the cause of the lower ratings? Did the standardized tests change in 2017? Were there major boundary changes that could have contributed? I know a score of "7" is not that bad but surprised to see that many schools get downgraded that much.
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Old 12-18-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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Every time a new school opens, the zones change. This year we had a new middle school open, so I'm not sure that would have affected the elementary schools. We are an area experiencing explosive growth, and that was bound to take a toll at some point. New schools get built regularly, but the older schools are still dealing with the larger class sizes as they wait and deal with freezes that shuffle kids to other schools.

Would be curious to know some of the comments that have been posted on Great Schools over the past year about those schools to see if there are any indicators for a drop in scores. I still only hear great things about the Fort Mill School District (my kids are in HS now and have been taught exclusively in the FMSD).
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:24 AM
 
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Great Schools has changed their grading system.
It has to do with them splitting the ratings up by ethnic group -- which I don't think is a fair gauge.
Sugar Creek elementary as an example since my son attends there, has a very large Latino population. A large portion of the kids, English is their second language. As a consequence, their grades in standardized tests will be lower. Great Schools sees this as the school not doing enough for "minorities".
If you look now they have an "Equity" score. Sugar Creek scores 5 out 10 in Equity but a 9 out of 10 in Academics.
This really hurts the schools that have a larger population of minorities and lower income kids and takes away from accounting for diversity (which used to be part of their rating an no longer is).
If you look at schools such as Gold Hill and Tega Cay, where the # of minorities and low-income kids is lower you'll see the disparity. Orchard Park was hurt by having a very small number of minority kids not doing as well as white.
I'm Latino and I think that this really isn't a correct way to gauge a school. The school isn't necessarily treating minority kids any worse (which is what the rating implies) but these kids come to school with a different set of circumstances than their other classmates. At sugar creek, the majority of the kids that come from low-income families live in a specific neighborhood that feeds to the school. So you have a very large grouping of disadvantaged kids attending. Gold Hill, Pleasant Knoll and Tega Cay don't have that but those schools are a lot less diverse socially and economically.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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Great Schools has changed their grading system.
It has to do with them splitting the ratings up by ethnic group -- which I don't think is a fair gauge.
Sugar Creek elementary as an example since my son attends there, has a very large Latino population. A large portion of the kids, English is their second language. As a consequence, their grades in standardized tests will be lower. Great Schools sees this as the school not doing enough for "minorities".
If you look now they have an "Equity" score. Sugar Creek scores 5 out 10 in Equity but a 9 out of 10 in Academics.
This really hurts the schools that have a larger population of minorities and lower income kids and takes away from accounting for diversity (which used to be part of their rating an no longer is).
If you look at schools such as Gold Hill and Tega Cay, where the # of minorities and low-income kids is lower you'll see the disparity. Orchard Park was hurt by having a very small number of minority kids not doing as well as white.
I'm Latino and I think that this really isn't a correct way to gauge a school. The school isn't necessarily treating minority kids any worse (which is what the rating implies) but these kids come to school with a different set of circumstances than their other classmates. At sugar creek, the majority of the kids that come from low-income families live in a specific neighborhood that feeds to the school. So you have a very large grouping of disadvantaged kids attending. Gold Hill, Pleasant Knoll and Tega Cay don't have that but those schools are a lot less diverse socially and economically.
Great info, SCCoqui. I didn't realize that Great Schools had changed how they grade schools. Good to know!
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by SCCoqui View Post
Great Schools has changed their grading system.
It has to do with them splitting the ratings up by ethnic group -- which I don't think is a fair gauge.
Sugar Creek elementary as an example since my son attends there, has a very large Latino population. A large portion of the kids, English is their second language. As a consequence, their grades in standardized tests will be lower. Great Schools sees this as the school not doing enough for "minorities".
If you look now they have an "Equity" score. Sugar Creek scores 5 out 10 in Equity but a 9 out of 10 in Academics.
This really hurts the schools that have a larger population of minorities and lower income kids and takes away from accounting for diversity (which used to be part of their rating an no longer is).
If you look at schools such as Gold Hill and Tega Cay, where the # of minorities and low-income kids is lower you'll see the disparity. Orchard Park was hurt by having a very small number of minority kids not doing as well as white.
I'm Latino and I think that this really isn't a correct way to gauge a school. The school isn't necessarily treating minority kids any worse (which is what the rating implies) but these kids come to school with a different set of circumstances than their other classmates. At sugar creek, the majority of the kids that come from low-income families live in a specific neighborhood that feeds to the school. So you have a very large grouping of disadvantaged kids attending. Gold Hill, Pleasant Knoll and Tega Cay don't have that but those schools are a lot less diverse socially and economically.
Thanks SCCoqui. I see what you mean, all the Fort Mill schools still have very good academics ratings just some have bad "equity" ratings which pull down their overall score.
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