How many years until Illinois is sprawled out?

[Kraftask]

Originally Posted by jasperhobbs

I'm impressed that you can predict what will happen 5000 years from now. Well done.

Yea 5000 years is nuts to try to predict. I think the Roman Empire only lasted an impressive 2000 years.

[Durian Beach]

Don't worry about it, there is virtually no construction going on around this state. When I drove to Texas there are new subdivisions going up everywhere, same when I went through Colorado Springs, even NW Indiana. However around Illinois no one is investing in this state because of the horrible electorate that guarantees bad government and horrendous property taxes so teachers can retire at 55 on an oversized pension.

[pvande55]

Originally Posted by Durian Beach

Don't worry about it, there is virtually no construction going on around this state. When I drove to Texas there are new subdivisions going up everywhere, same when I went through Colorado Springs, even NW Indiana. However around Illinois no one is investing in this state because of the horrible electorate that guarantees bad government and horrendous property taxes so teachers can retire at 55 on an oversized pension.

Obviously you haven't visited Libertyville or Mundelein lately. Five new developments I can think of. Some are "infill" close to the center. There may even be a few in Chicago. Fulton Market or Logan Square.

[DamenVChicago]

Originally Posted by Dajustin98

Been wanting to get more involved in researching this topic as I think it present is a interesting dilemma in the future but anyways it looks like Midwest farmland could be prime real estate for future American families to live on, plenty of water and rain and infrastructure already set up I can’t imagine it’ll take us long maybe in 5000 years? The first picture I posted I think shows around 1000 years or more of growth.

If Illinois had the same politics of Texas or Florida, then yes this topic would be a good discussion. Sadly, it is the polar opposite. Absurd property taxes, red tape, laws etc. is making sure the area will likely remain as it is largely for the forseeable future.

Right now, Wisconsin is a big moving ground for IL residents so I could see SE Wisconsin grow/sprawl outwards more from Milwaukee.

Who knows? Maybe someday if IL gets their SH** together, Chi/Milwaukee areas could finally connect and become a megopolis (I believe that's the word?)

[GWoodle]

Originally Posted by DamenVChicago

If Illinois had the same politics of Texas or Florida, then yes this topic would be a good discussion. Sadly, it is the polar opposite. Absurd property taxes, red tape, laws etc. is making sure the area will likely remain as it is largely for the forseeable future.

Right now, Wisconsin is a big moving ground for IL residents so I could see SE Wisconsin grow/sprawl outwards more from Milwaukee.

Who knows? Maybe someday if IL gets their SH** together, Chi/Milwaukee areas could finally connect and become a megopolis (I believe that's the word?)

At that time maybe have an arc from Milwaukee to Michigan City & South Bend. Will take years to fill from Elgin to DeKalb to Rockford.

Good question to ever fill from Mattson or Joliet to Kankakee.

Probably cut off Cairo from the rest of the state & give it to Ky or Mo.

[SonySegaTendo617]

Originally Posted by GWoodle

At that time maybe have an arc from Milwaukee to Michigan City & South Bend. Will take years to fill from Elgin to DeKalb to Rockford.

Good question to ever fill from Mattson or Joliet to Kankakee.

Probably cut off Cairo from the rest of the state & give it to Ky or Mo.

Only problem is that I don't think any neighboring state wants Cairo, lol. It's too bad, because it's obvious once upon a time this town was doing very well. But it has been obvious for decades now, that more development is pushing towards Paducah instead of Cairo.

Yes it would be great if Illinois had its act together as a state, and didn't push so much regulations, increased taxes, rules, etc so that more people would be encouraged to move here. Also you only can push new developments and sprawl for so long, i.e. the fact the Huntley outlet mall no longer has any stores left. And I know some other outlet malls like Tuscola(outside of Champaign), don't have a lot of stores left.

[Durian Beach]

Originally Posted by SonySegaTendo617

Only problem is that I don't think any neighboring state wants Cairo, lol. It's too bad, because it's obvious once upon a time this town was doing very well. But it has been obvious for decades now, that more development is pushing towards Paducah instead of Cairo.

Yes it would be great if Illinois had its act together as a state, and didn't push so much regulations, increased taxes, rules, etc so that more people would be encouraged to move here. Also you only can push new developments and sprawl for so long, i.e. the fact the Huntley outlet mall no longer has any stores left. And I know some other outlet malls like Tuscola(outside of Champaign), don't have a lot of stores left.

I don't think the outlet mall situation is specific to Illinois but a general trend of "Amazonization" killing brick and mortal locations. I do think though that if Southern IL had it's own government not controlled by corrupt Chicago policies that the Marion Carbondale area could well be booming just like Tennessee and Texas due to it's favorable climate and hilly forests compared to the upper rust belt. Cairo, no, it's a flood disaster waiting to happen. It makes no sense now with our scientific understanding of geographies and the natural disasters they face to invest billions building real estate in a flood prone area. Sort of like how the Tsunami woke people up to the hazards of living at low elevation along the Oregon and Washington coast and Hurricanes have made a lot of SE coastal property uninsurable.

I wouldn't worry about Illinois being oversprawled any time soon. I see little development in the state compared to what I saw in Texas and Colorado. A fellow on Youtube called "Mileage Mike" made a travel video about the midwest in which he noted how little traffic there is compared to the areas booming in the sunbelt and how the population is declining. Due to contraception the population in the developed world is declining, I don't think this will become like the planet "Gideon" on that Star Trek episode from the 60s where every square inch of that dystopian planet is filled with people milling about. A billion people would be a nightmare scenario for America, lower densities are always corelated to a better standard of living with people having access to their own homes and properties. Overpopulated nations develop cruel cultures where life is cheap. They have basically been at the carrying capacity of the land and under martial law since time memorial...and when you get a crazy despot who messes up the harvest (economy) you get mass starvation. The state is best to remain mostly farmland.