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Old 09-04-2018, 08:03 AM
 
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I wouldn't call Portugal, Spain, Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, and Denmark a small amount of countries, that's the overwhelming bulk of European power.

How can you say that Australia is better for the rape and genocide of the Aborigines? How can you say America is better for killing millions of innocent people and enslaving tens of millions more for 400 years?

Most countries are not better off, Mexico, Brazil, El Salvador, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Bolivia, South Africa, and every other African nation that was colonized. Most of the known poverty stricken places in the world are a result of European empires oppressing the people and stealing resources. Then to scoff at the result as if you didn't light the match and pour the gasoline.

These countries have been independent for 100 years.
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Old 09-04-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Europe spent the last 400 years overrunning everyone else's homeland. Now its there turn. Best of luck to all of those Africans trying to make it into Europe. Godspeed.
How are African countries suppose to develop if everyone keeps leaving?

I guess white people arent so evil after all since we rush to live in their countries.

African Americans, we are the lucky ones, our ancestors arrived here a very long time ago. We don’t need a green card, passport, immigration application, migration, refugee status, nothing.

Ironically America would be 1% black like most 1st world countries, not 13% black, if it wasn’t for America’s unfortunate tragic history.

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Old 09-04-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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These countries have been independent for 100 years.
When did that ever stop people from blaming rich white countries for their problems?

* White country colonizes developing country*
“Oh my God the outrage. You are exploiting our country! Leave now! We are a sovereign country and can build without your interference.”

*White country leaves developing country it once colonized*
“Oh my God why have you abandoned us? You exploit us then leave us to die? Your interference will have lasting affects on us for the next 1 million years. Please help us. We need money for investment. Can we migrate to your country?”

This is the circle of logic for African countries and it’s no wonder that many of the middle class educated ones prefer to live in America, contributing to Africa’s brain drain.
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Old 09-04-2018, 01:58 PM
 
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When did that ever stop people from blaming rich white countries for their problems?

* White country colonizes developing country*
“Oh my God the outrage. You are exploiting our country! Leave now! We are a sovereign country and can build without your interference.â€

*White country leaves developing country it once colonized*
“Oh my God why have you abandoned us? You exploit us then leave us to die? Your interference will have lasting affects on us for the next 1 million years. Please help us. We need money for investment. Can we migrate to your country?â€

This is the circle of logic for African countries and it’s no wonder that many of the middle class educated ones prefer to live in America, contributing to Africa’s brain drain.

The criticism is not completely unfounded. The formula is straightforward:


  • take raw materials out of the country for the lowest wages possible
  • manufacture or refine product in home country or developing nation again paying the lowest wages possible
  • Sell in developed country at highest possible price - sometimes through cartel/monopoly pricing power
  • Seller Gets Rich


This process has played out many, many times over the last 200 years and it by and large does not benefit the third world. The PROBLEM is that what is the alternative ? Communism ? Religious State ? Open warfare and or tribalism ? All of these actually produce WORSE results - as can be seen again and again through multiple examples - Somalia ? Venezuela ? Hati ?



The best results has been achieved when the occasional enlightened despot comes to power and actually enforces a somewhat progressive agenda much like the late Lee Kwan Yu.
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Old 09-04-2018, 06:05 PM
 
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Europe spent the last 400 years overrunning everyone else's homeland. Now its there turn. Best of luck to all of those Africans trying to make it into Europe. Godspeed.
Another person who hates Colonialism and Western civilization, but has no problem living in a Western country, or taking advantage of the opportunities it brings. Funny isn't it?
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Old 09-04-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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I suspect that to be the case. But I want to do my best to ensure that the window dressing they use to soften their underlining white supremacist ideology is exposed.
City data is just lined with all of these white supremacist posters. They arrive on almost every forum bleating their racist nonsense against blacks.
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Old 09-04-2018, 08:03 PM
 
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Another person who hates Colonialism and Western civilization, but has no problem living in a Western country, or taking advantage of the opportunities it brings. Funny isn't it?
I hope you know that the wealth of the Western world wasn't just built by blacks.

Don't bother to dialogue with me. I think that the folks with the torches in Charlottesville will be more interested in your response.
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Old 09-05-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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Another person who hates Colonialism and Western civilization, but has no problem living in a Western country, or taking advantage of the opportunities it brings. Funny isn't it?
1.) There is no such thing as Western Civilization

2.) You can reside in a nation and still not approve of its current or historic practices.
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Old 09-05-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Btw what was not mentioned in the original post (mostly because its intent was to inflame racist emotions in people like you) was that some of the migrants who rushed through the fences were waving EU flags. Shouting "we love the EU" they were obviously happy to be able to build a new life on European soil.
If these "migrants" really wanted to build a new life on European soil, they could have started by respecting the laws of the country to which they wanted to enter. Breaking through a border fence, then throwing battery acid at police officers, is not what I would consider an auspicious start to integrating yourself into your new society. So yes, I DO consider them to be a threat to the European way of life.

And even if they had come peacefully, what gives them the idea that Europe owes them a "new life"? They should be admitted only if Europe wants them to enter; not because they themselves feel like coming in. How would Morocco feel if a huge wave of European whites decided that they wanted to build new lives in their country? And especially if the incoming Europeans invited themselves in through the fences and greeted their new country's law-enforcement officers with battery acid?
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Old 09-05-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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And even if they had come peacefully, what gives them the idea that Europe owes them a "new life"? They should be admitted only if Europe wants them to enter; not because they themselves feel like coming in. How would Morocco feel if a huge wave of European whites decided that they wanted to build new lives in their country? And especially if the incoming Europeans invited themselves in through the fences and greeted their new country's law-enforcement officers with battery acid?
Speaking of Morocco, they were aggressively colonized by the Spanish and French for decades. Any riot or uprising was brutally put down by the European armies. It was common practice for Spanish forces during the Rif War to behead or mutilate Morocco rebels. Aside from that they burned villages to the ground, shot poison gas into cities and embarked on rampant rape sprees. Whatever these migrants might do in Spain it wouldn't even be on the same planet of evil when it comes to what the Spanish did in Morocco.
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