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Old 08-24-2009, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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Originally Posted by mortimer View Post
Don't preach. It's unbecoming.

It's quite possible to eloquently argue the points as to why the extension
is a good idea. Resorting to words like "ignorant" is, well, ignorant.

Making the assumption that people aren't smart enough ( ignorant ) to
make the "right" decision is the way they do it in Iran and other places.

Even if "they" ( the people ) make a decision that isn't in line with your
thinking doesn't make it wrong. It means that those in support didn't do
a good enough job explaining it or it was a bad idea in the first place.

You might recall that ( the people ) are the one's who passed the
measure in the first place. You might not recall it because you
were pooping in your diapers back then.


It's not another tax, really, but an increase.

If it corresponded with a decrease in the income tax rate, then
it would be substitution from an income to consumption tax.

It also doesn't have to be 1:1. Most people commute and shop by
car. The vast majority do and it's going to be that way - maybe
forever if we move wholesale to better mileage/alt fuels/electric.

Most people would be all for an additional 25-50 cents a gallon if they
started seeing stuff like additional lanes all the way to Santa Fe, a new
Paseo and Alameda interchange and other stuff like that getting built.

As much as I like and support the bus and <<< CERTAIN >>> light rail
stuff, I don't fall for that crap about "The Future is Mass Transit."

There's a reason most people drive their cars. It's better.

I've lived in Japan where they have, hands down, the best rail system
in the world and lots of people drive and prefer it that way. Even in a
short stint in Holland, I observed most people electing to friggin' drive
while I used their perfectly good mass transit system.

In the US with population densities 1/10th that of Europe and
effectively 1/100th that of Japan, we will NEVER stop driiving our cars.

I walk the walk and talk the talk with buses/biking and I still managed
to put almost 3,000 miles on my car this year in town.

Sometimes you have to preach to get the message out. Its not ignorant, its ignorant to avoid this tax. I could honestly careless if this fails, I'm not in the city that will suffer and see a collapse in the transportation system.

Thats all good people dont want "future mass transit" but some people cant afford a car.. Hello?! This is a great chance, but the streetcar is still going in, It has other funds... thats what the people dont know.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bradly
Sometimes you have to preach to get the message out.
OK. I'll preach here:

It's not necessary to quote someone's entire friggin'
post just to add a couple of new lines.

If the post was days old, it *might* be OK, but it's better to edit.

If you are posting just below, it's just a waste of bandwidth.
Who do you think you are? highdesertmutz ??
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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Here's my thought:

Anything that gets people out of their cars (and their cars out of my way on the streets I drive on) is worth consideration.

So I'll vote yes for an extension.
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoidberg
Anything that gets people out of their cars
(and their cars out of my way on the streets I drive on)
is worth consideration.
You miss the days of $4.25/gallon gas don't you?

... all that wide-open expanse of asphalt just for you ...

< sigh > me too.
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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Originally Posted by mortimer View Post
OK. I'll preach here:

It's not necessary to quote someone's entire friggin'
post just to add a couple of new lines.

If the post was days old, it *might* be OK, but it's better to edit.

If you are posting just below, it's just a waste of bandwidth.
Who do you think you are? highdesertmutz ??
Well I did it again, and I have no clue who that is.. so I really don't care.
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bradly
Well I did it again, and I have no clue
QED
:
:
: bandwidth

Last edited by mortimer; 08-28-2009 at 09:35 AM..
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Folks, This is not a new tax ! just a request from the city to extend this tax an additional 4 years. Without this tax in place, you will see the roads within the city begin to deterioate, and major cutbacks in the service provided by ABQRide Transit.

Currently our roads seem to be fairly well maintained. There has been major improvements in Albuquerque road conditions over the past 10 years! There have also been major improvements in our transit system over that same time period. The 1/4 cent tax has been well spent. The negativity you people seem to have on this issue is sorely misplaced. Perhaps you need to take out your financial fustrations on Obama healthcare which is guaranteed to take a lot more out of your bank account then this paultry 1/4 cent tax could ever account for!
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Quote:
Originally Posted by abegofet
Folks, This is not a new tax !
I don't think anyone here is not clear about that.

It *is* a chance to have your taxes reduced, so some people
have come out against the extension. You don't often get
the chance to vote to reduce your taxes.

[[[ he casts ... ]]]

Many people are against any kind of transportation tax any time.
They don't even want to pay taxes on their fuel to help build
the roads. If it were up to them, all roads would be constructed
by private companies and we would pay a toll to drive on them.

Roads on residential streets would be paved in upscale neighborhoods
where people could afford to do it themselves or they would just be
dirt for most of us.

[[[ it hits the water ... ]]]

All buses would be operated by private companies like they were
in the old days and any lines that could not be operated at a
profit would be shut down, the buses sold and the drivers laid off.

Any light rail or "heavy" rail like the Railrunner would, likewise, be
constructed and run using only investor money.

[[[ he starts reeling it in ... ]]]

There are many people in this world and lots of them truly believe
this is how it should be.
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Old 09-04-2009, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Vote NO so I can save all my quarter-cents and buy a lifted Ford F-350 Super-Duty extended cab long-bed and roll over the rubble that used to be Albuquerque roads and the corpses of those suckers who died at the curb waiting for some commie bus.

Or vote Yes. I mean you're gonna do what you're gonna do, right?


ABQConvict
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Old 09-04-2009, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Burque!
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Just to clarify; will this F-350 be gasoline or diesel?
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