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Old 02-25-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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I've knew someone who got throat cancer that was supposedly from drinking - but this person was an extremely heavy drinker. A longtime alcoholic who drank a bottle of Scotch daily for decades. His liver was shot too.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I've knew someone who got throat cancer that was supposedly from drinking - but this person was an extremely heavy drinker. A longtime alcoholic who drank a bottle of Scotch daily for decades. His liver was shot too.
not only is that a heavy drinker it is a pretty expensive one: the cheapest scotch is pricey!!!
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Western Colorado
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I don't get any of this. One study says it's good for you, another study says it's bad for you. I guess anything taken to extreme is bad.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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1 in 30? Doesn't sound too bad.

Have another drink!
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I don't get any of this. One study says it's good for you, another study says it's bad for you. I guess anything taken to extreme is bad.
Let's face it, these studies really show us nothing. First of all, there is so much more to these studies than we see or they consider..take the drinker, what else does he/she do that is not healthy and what is the family history? This applies to almost all studies. There are so many contributing factors.
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:00 AM
 
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There are carcinogens that get broken down by most people in the stomach. Some people (particularly Asians) lack this enzyme or partially lack it (either causing them to be totally unable to process alcohol or just less able to do so). I saw studies that linked this thing (the Asian flush) with high rates of throat cancer. Now, other studies tried linking it to drinking hot tea, so there's a bit of reaching for straws.

I'm going to go with the theory that turning red is an indicator of whether you are susceptible to cancer from alcohol until I see data saying otherwise. I turn very pale when I drink, which is a different problem.
i only turn red if i drink really fast.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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I would believe that it was a culprit in causing liver or pancrease cancer.... as so many alcholics have issues with their liver or pancreas.
Considering how many people I know who stopped drinking for good 20 years before their alcoholism killed them -- by cancer of the liver or pancreas -- I can easily believe this.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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Alcoholism and alcohol consumption are two very different things. There are several studies that suggest moderate alcohol consuption is beneficial, most notably with stress and cardiovascular disease. Beer and wine also appear to have other benefits outside of their ethanol content (one study showed that men with the lowest incident of heart disease consumed 10-20 pints of beer per week).

As with anything, toxicity only occurs at certain levels. Stay moderate with your consumption and you likely have little to worry about.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Alcoholism and alcohol consumption are two very different things. There are several studies that suggest moderate alcohol consuption is beneficial, most notably with stress and cardiovascular disease. Beer and wine also appear to have other benefits outside of their ethanol content (one study showed that men with the lowest incident of heart disease consumed 10-20 pints of beer per week).

As with anything, toxicity only occurs at certain levels. Stay moderate with your consumption and you likely have little to worry about.
I think the important thing to remember is these studies always suggest a possible link, not thus and so causes thus and so.... A lot of things can influence our health, but it is rare for one thing to really be the sole cultrit. You are right, Alcoholism, heavy drinking, and some consuption are all different..

Nita
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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So did the 1 out of 30 happen to be an alcoholic? It is suggested that around 5%-8% of Americans are considered alcoholics, so these numbers don't look bad at all, or surprising.
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