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Old 03-13-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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As the title of the thread asks, which metropolitan areas in Latin America with populations under 6 million (so, excluding a place like Santiago, Chile, which would otherwise be at or near the top of the list) have the best urban infrastructure? Consider things like well maintained roads, extensive/efficient public transportation, good sidewalks, and whatever else is relevant.

From what I've heard and read, some of the contenders might be Medellin, Colombia or Curitiba, Brazil, both of which have had recognition for their good urban planning.

Also, any thoughts on Caracas, Venezuela in this regard? I realize it's currently chaotic there in general, but it turns out to have one of the most extensive subway systems in Latin America. I also stumbled upon this video from 2017 that gives a sense of the roads and sidewalks which seem fairly organized, in one part of the city at least:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdCESMmQ1AE


Any thoughts on the above cities as they pertain to this topic, or on any other Latin American cities of this size that are (or should be) recognized for having good urban infrastructure?
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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Medellin definitely.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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Brasilia
Goiania
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:16 PM
 
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How about Panama City? Seems like a lot of money is being poured into infrastructure there, including the rail system.
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:26 AM
 
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As the title of the thread asks, which metropolitan areas in Latin America with populations under 6 million (so, excluding a place like Santiago, Chile, which would otherwise be at or near the top of the list) have the best urban infrastructure?

Any thoughts on the above cities as they pertain to this topic, or on any other Latin American cities of this size that are (or should be) recognized for having good urban infrastructure?
To be clear, we are excluding:
  1. São Paulo 21,090,792 Brazil
  2. Mexico City 20,892,724 Mexico
  3. Buenos Aires 13,693,657 Argentina
  4. Los Angeles 13,340,068 United States
  5. Rio de Janeiro 12,280,702 Brazil
  6. Lima Peru
  7. Bogotá 9,286,225 Colombia
  8. Dallas–Fort Worth 7,102,796 United States
  9. Santiago 6,683,852 Chile
  10. Houston 6,656,947 United States
  11. Miami 6,012,331 United States

The Bajío (lowlands or valley) is a region of West North-Central Mexico that includes parts of the states of Aguascalientes, Jalisco (Centro-Los Altos), Guanajuato, and Querétaro. With a population of less than 6 million, this region has some of the best infrastructure in Mexico

City - State - urban area -metro area population
León Guanajuato 1,436,480 1,609,717
Aguascalientes Aguascalientes 934,424 1,025,432
Santiago de Querétaro Querétaro 801,940 1,097,025
Irapuato Guanajuato 380,941 529,979
Celaya Guanajuato 310,413 468,387
Salamanca Guanajuato 160,169 260,732
Lagos de Moreno Jalisco 153,817 164,212
San Juan del Río Querétaro 138,878 402,112
Tepatitlán de Morelos Jalisco 104,377 288,635
Silao Guanajuato 74,242 147,123
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Old 03-23-2018, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Saskatoon - Saskatchewan, Canada
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Interesting video. Sometimes i hear so many bad news about Venezuela that i think they are all living something like a zombie apocalypse with chaos everywhere. But the truth is they are still trying to live a normal life, especially in the wealthier areas like in this video.

Yes, there is a lot of violence, people starving, but in this video it looks like a typical day of any latin american metropolis. Probably this avenue is in a region of middle to high class.

Well, about the question of the thread, the metros that are famous for having a good infrastructure in Brazil (comparing to the average) are Curitiba, also Goiania, Brasilia and Belo Horizonte.
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Old 03-23-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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To be clear, we are excluding:
  1. São Paulo 21,090,792 Brazil
  2. Mexico City 20,892,724 Mexico
  3. Buenos Aires 13,693,657 Argentina
  4. Los Angeles 13,340,068 United States
  5. Rio de Janeiro 12,280,702 Brazil
  6. Lima Peru
  7. Bogotá 9,286,225 Colombia
  8. Dallas–Fort Worth 7,102,796 United States
  9. Santiago 6,683,852 Chile
  10. Houston 6,656,947 United States
  11. Miami 6,012,331 United States
That is correct, particularly in the case of US cities, as I don't think most would consider the US (with the exception of Puerto Rico) as part of Latin America, even if some of its cities do have a large Hispanic population.
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Old 03-27-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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While Latinos are almost half of first and second generation residents of USA, they are still only 17% of the population.

54,268 Latino population in USA in 2014 17.3%
18,493 .First generation 45.4%
16,930 .Second generation 46.0%
18,844 .Third generation and higher 8.0%

313,401 Population in USA in 2014
40,743 .First generation
36,836 .Second generation
235,822 .Third generation and higher


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I don't think most would consider the US (with the exception of Puerto Rico) as part of Latin America, even if some of its cities do have a large Hispanic population.
It's pretty difficult to say that the Texas border cities are not Latino
Laredo, Texas 95.6%
Brownsville, Texas 93.2%
McAllen, Texas 84.6%
El Paso, Texas 80.7%
...
San Antonio, Texas 63.2%

There are now more Spanish speakers in the US than in Spain (46.35 million population). Not all Latinos in the USA speak Spanish, but the difference is made up by people who speak Spanish as a second language.

Personally, I feel that the census should keep a count of Hispanophones or people who speak Spanish as a first language. The term "Hispanic" is more problematic especially as we get to third generation. As it is a significant cultural phenomena, the count of hispanaphones has no ethical issues.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:58 PM
 
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Brasília, Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Vitória, Montevideo, Córdoba... there are many. I believe these are among the best.
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:57 AM
 
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Medellin is the clear winner here from trams to BRTs to bike networks, it has the most complete system. Not just that but its Metro ridership is impressive too, beating out much larger cities such as Rio de Janeiro, Lima, Monterrey and Guadalajara. In fact Medellin's metro ridership is 5th only behind Mexico City, São Paulo, Santiago and Buenos Aires, and its even close to surpassing Buenos Aires!

Combine the ridership with the city's other organised modes of transport such as Tram: 80,000/day, BRT: 145,000/day, Encicla: 13,000/day, MetroCable: 34,300/day and SIT buses: 351,300/day then we're talking about one of the highest riderships of advanced integrated public transport in the world.

Caracas was another leading example but half the time the metro is closed down now and they haven't published ridership figures since 2009. Partially because the service is so erratic and unreliable.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:...%A9rica_Latina


Aside from infrastructure itself the usage of the infrastructure is innovative and progressive...Medellin Ciclovia...

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