Senator McCain Strikes Down AZ GOP Extremists, Cleans up AZ GOP

[SageCats]

Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative? The Libertarian party.
Vote Libertarian! Eff the establishment

Gary Johnson for prez

[SageCats]

Originally Posted by keninaz

Those of us that live here are still trying to figure out what he is.
I have never been pro party one way or another myself but many here in AZ just see the republican attached to anything and go for it.

Yes. Dianne Douglas. She won the position of state superintendent of instruction solely because of party line voters. Her opponent was a professor of education from ASU and a former superintendent. Dianne Doulgas never even involved herself in education except for a very short tenure on some school board. Parties aside, one candidate was clearly a lot more qualified for the position. He didn't get the job because he ran on the D ticket.

This is an example of the failures of our democracy.

[stevek64]

Originally Posted by keninaz

Those of us that live here are still trying to figure out what he is.
I have never been pro party one way or another myself but many here in AZ just see the republican attached to anything and go for it.

Not true. Appears just as many here in Arizona will pick the other side of the same coin that I and many feel is also just as largely corrupt/bought off/self-serving.

Gallup poll: Arizona not a Republican state - ABC15 Arizona

Though it appears things are actually finally changing a bit and the herd is finally waking up to some extent.

As for McCain? Here's what I think defines him the best:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicia...?cid=N00006424

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicia...ype=I&newmem=N

[ftbowie]

Arizona seems to be doing quite well as a State under Republican rule...The failures are generally Democrat run States and cities..The liberals seem to create lots of Detroit's....

[Dangerous Dave]

McCain needs to retire and move to DC permanently. He's more a Northeast establishment Republican than he is an Arizonan. And let's face it, the only reason he ever set foot in Arizona was because he marries into the Hensley family... and the Navy couldn't afford to have him keep crashing aircraft.

[Champ le monstre du lac]

This thread is a continuous circle jerk (like every other C-D political discussion) and reinforces my belief that the two party system is broken. Hardliners on both ends will continue to scapegoat each other and take down the country in the process. More exacerbation of the problem. Rarely a discussion of any real solutions.

[GeneR]

Originally Posted by Desert_SW_77

This thread is a continuous circle jerk (like every other C-D political discussion) and reinforces my belief that the two party system is broken. Hardliners on both ends will continue to scapegoat each other and take down the country in the process. More exacerbation of the problem. Rarely a discussion of any real solutions.

I would agree with this and throw in the personal attacks/name calling and minus any thoughtful discussion of issues and the result tends to be rather non-informative.

[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by Desert_SW_77

This thread is a continuous circle jerk (like every other C-D political discussion) and reinforces my belief that the two party system is broken. Hardliners on both ends will continue to scapegoat each other and take down the country in the process. More exacerbation of the problem. Rarely a discussion of any real solutions.

Originally Posted by GeneR

I would agree with this and throw in the personal attacks/name calling and minus any thoughtful discussion of issues and the result tends to be rather non-informative.

x2 ^^^^ these. Vote your conscience and not for the one who is 'most electable'. this habit of voting for the 'most electable' is how we are in such a huge mess now.