Self-Driving Uber Car Kills Arizona Pedestrian (money, pay, place)

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Nope. Factually correct. The NTSB fact finding indicts Uber.

Facts are facts. Life is hard.

This is a pointless discussion. You are of course correct that NTSB does not specifically fault Uber. And I am also correct that the NTSB fact finding convicts Uber.

So relax and wait. Our views will in time converge...to mine.

I’m not disputing your opinion of the conclusion. You’re simply getting ahead of yourself based on the report that is available as of now.

[Poncho_NM]

Uber self-driving SUV saw pedestrian but did not brake, federal report finds
May 24, 2018
Associated Press

The autonomous Uber SUV that struck and killed an Arizona pedestrian in March spotted the woman about six seconds before hitting her, but did not stop because the system used to automatically apply brakes in potentially dangerous situations had been disabled, according to federal investigators.

A video of the crash showed the driver looking down just before the vehicle struck and killed 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg in what is believed to be the first death involving a self-driving test vehicle.

Entire article with video: Uber self-driving SUV saw pedestrian but did not brake, federal report finds - Chicago Tribune

[More Rock]

I don't want slaves or robots.

[AndyDwyer480]

That woman wasn’t paying enough attention and she got killed

End of story

No one to blame but her

[Adamson865]

Originally Posted by AndyDwyer480

That woman wasn’t paying enough attention and she got killed

The woman with the criminal record "driving" the car wasn't paying enough attention either.

[AndyDwyer480]

Originally Posted by rah62

The woman with the criminal record "driving" the car wasn't paying enough attention either.

For one I thought a man was behind the wheel?

Second, WHAT does the criminal record have to do with ANYTHING?

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by AndyDwyer480

For one I thought a man was behind the wheel?

Second, WHAT does the criminal record have to do with ANYTHING?

First, what difference does it make if the driver was a man or a woman?

Second, the driver wasn't paying attention. Uber has admitted that their software was faulty. They shut the program down and paid the victim's family a large cash settlement. Ultimately the fault of the accident will be Uber's buggy software and inattentive poorly trained driver.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

First, what difference does it make if the driver was a man or a woman?

Second, the driver wasn't paying attention. Uber has admitted that their software was faulty. They shut the program down and paid the victim's family a large cash settlement. Ultimately the fault of the accident will be Uber's buggy software and inattentive poorly trained driver.

Ultimately, the woman who crossed a street in the dark, nowhere near a crosswalk, without concern for oncoming traffic, will be the faulty party. Uber played a secondary role, but had she not been so foolish, she'd still be here.

Please cite the source that showed the dollar amount Uber payed to her family. I haven't seen anything suggesting the amount.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Ultimately, the woman who crossed a street in the dark, nowhere near a crosswalk, without concern for oncoming traffic, will be the faulty party. Uber played a secondary role, but had she not been so foolish, she'd still be here.

Please cite the source that showed the dollar amount Uber payed to her family. I haven't seen anything suggesting the amount.

The matter is settled for all intents and purposes. Likely a few million though the amount may never be public.

The woman initiated the event certainly. But it would appear she was obvious and visible to an oncoming driver long enough for the accident to have been avoided. So yes the AV is liable.

The individual in the car had multiple duties and was apparently looking down at a display dealing with her other reporting duties. Earlier Uber had two individuals in each car. One as the safety driver the other as a reporter/recorder. Uber combined both duties into a single person before the crash happened.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

The matter is settled for all intents and purposes. Likely a few million though the amount may never be public.

The woman initiated the event certainly. But it would appear she was obvious and visible to an oncoming driver long enough for the accident to have been avoided. So yes the AV is liable.

The individual in the car had multiple duties and was apparently looking down at a display dealing with her other reporting duties. Earlier Uber had two individuals in each car. One as the safety driver the other as a reporter/recorder. Uber combined both duties into a single person before the crash happened.

Let me know when someone is convicted of manslaughter. Until then, your claim is moot.