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There are way more ex- Catholics than ex-Evangelicals.
So more Catholics can leave any brainwashing.
Catholics are born into it, mostly; it is drilled into them early...thus, it is easier to leave it as adults.
Evangelicals more become to believe this way...so they tend to 'stay with it'...my
observation only.
Thus, to answer the op ques they are more brainwashed...tho, I personally do not use that word ever.
(Most don't know I was both a happy Catholic and Evangelical.
Now, I can not call myself even a Christian since I don't believe in the entire Apostles' Creed, the prerequisite for being a Christian...according to the Nicene Counsel.
Thus, I consider myself not brain washed to 'believe some dogma'....but follow my personal experience now...much like a new
NDEr drops all of the past religious pretenses...seeing the essence of truth
running thru all of them....with many mistakes.)
There are way more ex- Catholics than ex-Evangelicals.
So more Catholics can leave any brainwashing.
Catholics are born into it, mostly; it is drilled into them early...thus, it is easier to leave it as adults.
Evangelicals more become to believe this way...so they tend to 'stay with it'...my
observation only.
Thus, to answer the op ques they are more brainwashed...tho, I personally do not use that word ever.
(Most don't know I was both a happy Catholic and Evangelical.
Now, I can not call myself even a Christian since I don't believe in the entire Apostles' Creed, the prerequisite for being a Christian...according to the Nicene Counsel.
Thus, I consider myself not brain washed to 'believe some dogma'....but follow my personal experience now...much like a new
NDEr drops all of the past religious pretenses...seeing the essence of truth
running thru all of them....with many mistakes.)
You could have solved your dilemma by simply becoming a cultural Christian. It seems most atheists had a strong need to believe the religion when they were trying to find themselves.
Are you saying that you are NOT saner than most Catholics or Evangelicals?
Freud said no one is normal. I just know that most Catholics are more tolerant than Atheists. The question that begs an answer is: Is intolerance a form of brainwashing?
Freud said no one is normal. I just know that most Catholics are more tolerant than Atheists. The question that begs an answer is: Is intolerance a form of brainwashing?
Freud said no one is normal. I just know that most Catholics are more tolerant than Atheists. The question that begs an answer is: Is intolerance a form of brainwashing?
Freud said a lot more things than that. But the idea of the fakeness of "normalcy" is beyond largely true.
So regardless, you said you were saner (and now "more tolerant" Hahaha) than Atheists. But I've met many Atheists who were very tolerant, and all who were very logical, not many "hardcore" Catholics that were. The laissez-faire lay Catholics I considered more Secular than Catholic. Perhaps it is the types of social circles you (and them Atheists that you personally interact with) are hanging around with or studying about.
More than certainly, social norms (such as various levels of tolerance) are a form of brainwashing. Just go to a majority Muslim country where "tolerance of religion (but not Atheism nor Idolatry)" is strictly socially enforced.
As is peer-pressure a form of brainwashing. However, the form of "brainwashing" made popular by sensationalists and entertainers in the media as a strictly "evil and aware structural manipulation of the unaware" is a supremely fake thing.
Most often, it is the self-assured blind leading the submitting blind. But technically, religion is really just peer-pressure with added psychologically influencing tropes and rituals. Thus, the manipulation/indoctrination is not as strict or underhanded as one might think. Most of them (both types of blind) are doing it out of the (proper or improper) fear that without the "induced order" (of their specific persuasion) there would be chaos.
----------------tldr -
So in terms of "normal saneness as tolerance," you think the order goes something like this:
1. you
2. other Catholics as a general average
3. Atheists as a general average
Q1: But where do Evangelicals (as a general average) fit in for you?
Q2: And is there anything relatively tolerant about the above "saneness order" viewpoint?
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Freud said no one is normal. I just know that most Catholics are more tolerant than Atheists. The question that begs an answer is: Is intolerance a form of brainwashing?
No most Catholics are not tolerant at all. Ask my old neighbor who adopted a native American boy how tolerant her Catholic friends were (she was a Catholic herself). They told her god's punishment for her involved her infertility and having to adopt. And, they were not particularly nice to her child (who was 2 years old at the time).
Catholics tolerant ? Like my childhood and forever best friend could not even be in my wedding because it was to be held in my Baptist church?
I ran into the same thing when I was asked to be one of the groom's men for one of my best friends. I knew I had to ask the priest for permission to go to a Methodist service. I supposed it was a formality. But no, he said I couldn't attend. My response: "Just watch me".
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I think you just sunk your own ship by owning Catholicism.
