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Old 07-08-2008, 12:15 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Swami Vivekananda once said:

Science is nothing but the finding of unity. As soon as science would reach perfect unity, it would stop from further progress, because it would reach the goal. Thus Chemistry could not progress farther when it would discover one element out of which all other could be made. Physics would stop when it would be able to fulfill its services in discovering one energy of which all others are but manifestations, and the science of religion become perfect when it would discover Him who is the one life in a universe of death, Him who is the constant basis of an ever-changing world. One who is the only Soul of which all souls are but delusive manifestations. Thus is it, through multiplicity and duality, that the ultimate unity is reached. Religion can go no farther. This is the goal of all science.
All science is bound to come to this conclusion in the long run. Manifestation, and not creation, is the word of science today, and the Hindu is only glad that what he has been cherishing in his bosom for ages is going to be taught in more forcible language, and with further light from the latest conclusions of science.
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:39 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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well, my intention was to ask atheists / agnostics, what were their thoughts on vivekananda's words, whether you agree or disagree with it
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Old 07-08-2008, 02:46 PM
 
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I read the Swami's words several times to try and be certain I grasped it all, and I think I do agree with him...basically. Religion came about because ancient peoples were trying to understand the world (they had no concept of the universe)...science is now the way that people are trying to understand the world & the universe. But it is an on-going, seemingly endless task...to find the end either in religion or in science.

My belief is that the beginning of all of this is what & where we all came from. Before that point there was nothing, not even "time". And if we have a purpose at all in this grand scheme of things, it is to return to that original source...call it god if you will, call it the Big Bang...maybe it is nothing more than a thought...god thinking.

Vivekananda is right in that there will never be unity until all questions are answered and that final goal of understanding is reached. Maybe that is when "Time" will end, maybe that's what it's all about. I think neither Science nor religion will ever reach that point of unity, though. With Science there just is no end to learning things...like a Googleplex number, for every answer another question will be raised. Christians (not Dharmic philosophies) will never reach a point of unity because they are not trying to question or learn, they simply accept what they have been taught and seem unwilling or afraid to question any futher. They want unity but only within the guidelines of their own perspective.
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