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Old 02-02-2010, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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If the three of you were engaging in some sort of discussion- ANY discussion that was interactive and engaging enough to where there was a level of established comfort between you all, and the man simply invited BOTH of you to his church- I think that would have been alright. And would have allowed you the opportunity to simply say "no thank you" and that would have been that. He wouldn't have been out of line so much if he was simply extending an invitation because he liked you both and thought you might like to join him, not trying to "convert" you or your daughter.

I do, however, think that bringing up ANYTHING religious isn't really good etiquette for when you're on the job- but if the guy at least used that type of discretion I'd give him a break. But as it stands- he went PAST you, to speak to your daughter and NOT you, and that is very inappropriate.

Personally, I always hate to get employees in trouble without first trying to give them the opportunity to make things right themselves. So if it were me, I would approach this man and let him politely know how he made you feel and see if he is apologetic and now reticent in his actions. If so- I'd let it go. If not, well, then contacting some higher-ups within the company would not be out of line.
I spoke to the man only because I do this every single time I go in Walmart with my laptop and the bag it comes in. I don't want to put them in the position of wondering whether I am there to shoplift or am I returning something. I was talking to him in his so called official capacity as an employee of Walmart. My side of the conversation didn't stray from that. Even after he produced the ticket, my mind was still back at the laptop situation, I thought maybe Walmart had a new policy regarding bringing in something like that...I was staggered when he explained what it was. In fact he cut me off when I was trying to explain about my laptop to get that ticket in our hands. I should have stopped him before I did however I was SO taken aback, I was thrown off for a moment. I also have a problem with speaking before I have thought about it, I was about to really let him have it and I thought I needed a moment or two, to calm down so I could express myself in a calm manner and get my point across to this person without making my daughter feel like everyone was watching us because I had blown my top at this little troll like man who is a Walmart greeter.
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Personally, I always hate to get employees in trouble without first trying to give them the opportunity to make things right themselves. So if it were me, I would approach this man and let him politely know how he made you feel and see if he is apologetic and now reticent in his actions. If so- I'd let it go. If not, well, then contacting some higher-ups within the company would not be out of line.
I disagree.
He's an employee and as such, needs to keep his personal views apart from his job.
He's acting as a representative of the company.
If he's not smart enough to figure that out, perhaps he shouldn't be working in a public setting.

I'm sick of xians getting a free pass on everything.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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They have been taught to sell their brand of religion regardless of how wrong they are. I would make my feeling know to the manager of the store and if that doesn’t work send an email to the Corporate Customer service and let them know. They will address it without you having to get any more envolved.
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Old 02-04-2010, 03:47 PM
 
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OH NO, he started into this talk TO MY DAUGHTER about how she could go to this event at his Baptist church where there would be hot chocolate and free candy and lots of other children.
I have to wonder about the intelligence of someone like that. "Never take candy from strangers" is such a common lesson of childhood that it's a cliche.

Did he honestly think the girl's mother would stand there and let a strange man talk to her child?

What kind of response was he hoping to get? "Yes, sure, I will let my child go to some church service without me."

And does he not read the newspapers? Does he know nothing of perverted clergy? Is he not aware of the predatory appearance of a man approaching a young girl and trying to lure her with candy?

Honestly, he sounds like a pedophile to me.
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Old 02-04-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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Atheists taking God out of schools?..... I only have one question; whose God?... See, people like you need to open your eyes and try to understand that there many different faiths and all of the people who believe in these faiths have the same rights as you....so that you wont feel alone Islamic radicals share your views. They also believe that God should be before all else in government, education and family structure, like you they also believe that it must be THEIR GOD and no other.
What is God doing in school in the first place? Taking physics?
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:19 PM
 
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O.K., I'm confused. I started a thread on this forum entitled "I was questioned as to why I was posting on a thread about Mormonism" after I had posted a message on a thread on the main Religious board. The thread I posted here was deleted after a few messages. I was told that I had violated the terms of agreement and I couldn't figure out how I did that. Today I see a new notification about not tolerating "insulting other members" and I deduced that was what I had done (I'm still not sure how...). However, I noticed that one of the first messages on this thread accused atheists/agnostics as being responsible for "the drug culture and need for porn." How is that not insulting to atheists/agnostics? I don't get it.
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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How dare that person speak to my child about religion i would rather have my children learn the good things from other students at school, such as sex ,drugs witchcraft. People amaze me everyday!!!!
Have you ever took time to go to the hospital to visit the mental ward? It saddens me to see so many young people who have serious mental problems ! Many come from good homes. Not one of these young children i spoke with had problems with religion . Maybe its the parents, they dont want their children to know what is right or good ,it may expose their own deeds.
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:02 PM
 
Location: missouri
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Don't lose your shirts-try and get a little universal feel for the human condition-I think this is a philosophy thread, evidently its an amusement thread (made not to think)-one would think this is a think by numbers site as empty headed as it seems. The point is all these thought structures attempt to dominate "reality" because these just want to run everything. It is in the human, to want to run itself and dominate its environment. You guys want to bad mouth a religion, that is fine, but it is real poor thinking that doesn't turn itself on itself (which is a real common occurrence on this supposedly philosophical page with all its philosophical thinkers)-sort of one eyed jack, as it goes, you sound as if only religion intrudes on another's personal existence-duh! In this culture I have been approached by it all. Porn lovers want porn without guilt and available, atheists want a world not threatened by religion-and believe me, all you enlightened and tolerant atheists would take over in a second if you could, and you all, or at least your great spoke persons are attempting to dominate the culture-do atheists ever keep up on the news? Big Brothers at WalMart want cash, the cops phone for cash, religious people want their religion to dominate, etc, etc , etc. What I was commenting on, in this useless thread with its back slapping inbred thinking, was that those out there are just like you all-the method is the same, its just the content is different.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Longmont, CO
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It's interesting that there are "loyal Wal-Mart shoppers" here.

Although I've always preferred Target, Wal-Mart is more conveniently located for me and so it gets a fair amount of my business. Anyway, not long ago, a co-worker of mine and I got into a discussion about the relative merits of Target versus Wal-Mart.

She is both a passionately devoted Christian and a Wal-Mart shopper. Her reason for loving Wal-Mart, is/was, that they allowed Salvation Army bell ringers and other religious fund raisers on their property, while Target did not (thus, in her mind, making Target an enemy of her faith).

At that point, I decided that I would do everything in my (albeit limited) power to deride, criticize and avoid them whenever possible. To be fair, I still shop them occasionally. When you need milk for the kids' cereal at 6AM, the difference between one block and 3 miles to the next closest grocery store can't be justified.

To be fair to Wal-Mart, Target's decision was driven by, I'm sure, their attorney's fears of liability (rather than an anti-religious agenda) and I'm equally sure that Wal-Mart's actions were driven by a keen understanding of who their consumers are and what motivates them. Likewise, I'm happy to support most groups' efforts (even if they're faith based) to help those less fortunate. It's still fun to see a major corporation not bow to the will of religion, just to make an extra buck.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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How dare that person speak to my child about religion i would rather have my children learn the good things from other students at school, such as sex ,drugs witchcraft. People amaze me everyday!!!!
Have you ever took time to go to the hospital to visit the mental ward? It saddens me to see so many young people who have serious mental problems ! Many come from good homes. Not one of these young children i spoke with had problems with religion . Maybe its the parents, they dont want their children to know what is right or good ,it may expose their own deeds.
So your another one who feels that all morality flows from christianity...which of course is not true. OR is it you feel atheists are synonymous with drug users, which of course is not true.

Take your blinders off, not everyone wants to or should be the same religion as you are. Some of us like to be able to go out in public and NOT be accosted by some pamphlet waving fool trying to get another star in his crown.

How would the christians feel if it was us atheists knocking on their doors, pushing pamphlets into their hands, trying to force our beliefs on you? I don't think you would care for it. Frankly I find that kind of action incredibly presumptuous and one so oft completely embraced by religious people.
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