Less than 40% of Georgia students on track for college (Atlanta: 2015, how much)

[arjay57]

Is this true in metro Atlanta as well? If so we need to get on the stick.

Honesty is best policy as Georgia learns fewer than 40 percent of kids on track in reading, math | Get Schooled

[rapier7]

Just under 2/3 of high school graduates go on to college. Maybe 1/3 of the young adult population have the skills and work ethic to graduate from a proper 4 year degree program. That's the worst part. The public is spending a lot of money to subsidize "the college experience" to a lot of people who will drop out.

Restructuring K-12 education to properly educate our students will expose a lot of ugly truths. One of them is this: the majority of high school students shouldn't go to college.

[CCATL]

Originally Posted by rapier7

Restructuring K-12 education to properly educate our students will expose a lot of ugly truths, like a lack of resources in rural and inner city schools. One of them is this: the majority of high school students aren't given the opportunity to go to college.

Fixed that for you.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by CCATL

Fixed that for you.

I can't speak to rural schools but our inner city schools here in Atlanta are extremely well funded and have terrific resources.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I can't speak to rural schools but our inner city schools here in Atlanta are extremely well funded and have terrific resources.

maybe those in the NE quadrant, but there are other quads that share resources.

[rapier7]

Originally Posted by CCATL

Restructuring K-12 education to properly educate our students will expose a lot of ugly truths, like a lack of resources in rural and inner city schools. One of them is this: the majority of high school students aren't given the opportunity to go to college.

https://app3.doe.k12.ga.us/ows-bin/o...prev_order=dsc

Last year, Atlanta Public Schools spent $13530.26 per full time equivalent (FTE) student, more money than every other county/district system except for 3 systems: Taliaferro County, Baker County, and Green County. Those 3 county systems are all at least 44% African American and off the Georgia piedmont region. Cobb County, on the other hand, spent $7908.52 per FTE, less than 3/5 of APS, and has much better student outcomes. At a statewide level, Utah spends less than Cobb County per pupil and has significantly better student outcomes.

Can we dispense with the notion that it's a lack of money that's holding our students back?

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

maybe those in the NE quadrant, but there are other quads that share resources.

Schools all over the city are equally funded, cq.

I've posted these numbers in detail in the past. The same is true with class size, faculty experience, etc.

[DirkMcGirt]

Ditchdiggers and MARTA employees who don't actually have to show up to work.

[hautemomma]

Everyone is not supposed to go to college. I'd say that much fewer than 100 percent of students are college material. The number of enrollees in fundamental or developmental "college" courses speaks to that. Plus, with the way the economy is going, knowing a trade or two might be a not-so-bad bet.

[cwkimbro]

Well I don't want to jump on an alarmist band wagon an say everyone must go to college.

I'm not overly shocked or worried over this as most people still don't go to (or need to go to) college for our society to function.

But I'm still worried in some ways.

-We need to teach our society to see the value in people who don't go to college for jobs that don't really require it. Often college graduates are valued, not by need but simply as someone who showed the achievement. It is a rather expensive way to simply prove oneself. This might mean we might need to rethink other ways for people to prove themselves for particular career ambitions. We need a way for those that don't go to college to still strive for achievment and mark it.

-If we send students to a college preparatory degree program, we are still failing to have them achieve within that program... whether or not they ever go to college. In other words, while they might not all need to go on to college, we still should get success why they are in the k-12 program. The goal isn't to put them in college, but to keep their math, reasoning, logic, language, and art skills to a point of readiness. Those are all skills to be used in the world outside of college too.

-Perhaps it is time we start de-emphasizing college preparatory programs for all in the final years of high school. This isn't to we shouldn't stop or not care about student achievement though or de-emphasize math and reading skills. Rather it is accepting not all kids need to go to college and we should place value technical education and technical preparation too. There are real world skills in health technology, building, and other industries that do not require a college degree but can pay the bills too. I wouldn't underestimate how much money a skilled welder can bring home. In some industries it would shock people.