I-85 bridge near Piedmont Rd Collapses. (dangerous, safety, areas)

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Or were they pressured into admitting that?

The lady didn't sound like she was being pressured when she was interviewed by reporters.

GDOT and the rest of the government would have gotten major heat if they'd said, "We're not making any repairs until we figure out who caused this and especially whether any white males were involved."

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by arjay57

The lady didn't sound like she was being pressured when she was interviewed by reporters.

GDOT and the rest of the government would have gotten major heat if they'd said, "We're not making any repairs until we figure out who caused this and especially whether any white males were involved."

Sir, you obviously have no idea how law enforcement forces innocent people into taking a plea deal because they threaten them with X amount years if it goes to trail, or sign this plea and you'll go for 1/4 of the time.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Sir, you obviously have no idea how law enforcement forces innocent people into taking a plea deal because they threaten them with X amount years if it goes to trail, or sign this plea and you'll go for 1/4 of the time.

Well, I do.

It's just that until there's solid evidence to the contrary, there's not much that can be done. Do you have any evidence that things didn't happen as are being reported? Do you have anything more tangible than some kind of... gut feeling, I suppose?

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Just don't ask Georgia to fund it , they'll be glad to take the feds hand out.

Even more importantly, let's be sure not to ask big business or universities to chip in for public transportation that delivers people to their front door.

Nobody knows since they've never been asked, but what if they said no, or maybe yes, or something in between? That would be so horrible.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Well, I do.

It's just that until there's solid evidence to the contrary, there's not much that can be done. Do you have any evidence that things didn't happen as are being reported? Do you have anything more tangible than some kind of... gut feeling, I suppose?

Just a gut feeling... I'm not a conspiracy theory kind guy, but smoking crack under that bridge just seems way too easy. Like the majority of people would accept it and never think twice; crackheads gonna crackhead.

[whodean]

The man is mentally challenged.

Witnesses say he deliberately set a couch on fire on top of a Target buggy down there.

[cqholt]

https://www.georgiapol.com/2017/04/0...otter-85-fire/

A reporter asked Georgia Department of Transportation commissioner Russell McMurry if the homeless guy charged with arson, Basil Eleby, is a scapegoat.

“I won’t speculate on what people call the person who caused this fire,” McMurry said.

Note the phrasing. Eleby caused the fire. Not GDOT.

GDOT did nothing wrong. That’s the line.

When the state or local government screws up, they’re usually invulnerable to criminal prosecution or serious civil prosecution

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Well, I do.

It's just that until there's solid evidence to the contrary, there's not much that can be done. Do you have any evidence that things didn't happen as are being reported? Do you have anything more tangible than some kind of... gut feeling, I suppose?

Well, I know about that sort of thing, too, and certainly don't want to see sme innocent person crushed by the system. If that's what is happening I'll be glad to stick up for this fellow.

From what I've seen thus far there is probably blame in more than one place.

[Born 2 Roll]

Originally Posted by GatorsZ71

I was looking at moving to midtown, then the bridge collapsed due to irresponsible crack heads (those jerkwads), if I will be moving by June 1st time frame you think I might be ok? Guess it's hard to say how long it could take to replace the ole bridge, but when I look at alternate routes to go from Dunwoody where I work to midtown in afternoon it says to go 2-85 west to 75 south.

Interstate 285 westbound to I-75 southbound will be your best (and only) practical alternate superhighway route....A route that will see significantly increased traffic volumes during peak traffic and daylight hours.

Your only other practical alternate routing will be to board a southbound MARTA Red Line heavy rail train (subway train) at the Dunwoody MARTA Station and exit the train at one of the three MARTA stations that is most convenient to your place of work in the Midtown area (at either the Arts Center, the Midtown or the North Avenue MARTA stations) in the morning and vice-versa in the afternoon/evening.

[Born 2 Roll]

Originally Posted by LTCM

An important point is that these pipes where not flammable but rather they are combustible. I know that change seems minor but it's actually significant.

Flammable is a completely different class of material which is easily set on fire and burn quickly. By definition a flammable product could never be used as conduit due to the risk of electrical arking.

Flammables are a completely different animal when it comes to storage and would never be stored under an interstate.

After the viaduct burned down and closed a critical stretch of superhighway in a city with dangerously few alternate transportation options, I don't think that anyone cares about the technicalities of whether the materials stored under the freeway bridge were flammable or combustible.

Most people just know that the materials stored under the bridge were highly-combustible enough to be set ablaze (apparently by a random crack addict) and wreak havoc with their collective daily routines.

...And as a result, the public consensus has become that any materials that are either highly-combustible and/or highly-flammable most likely should not be stored under an exceptionally busy freeway overpass for an extended period of time in an area where those apparently unsafe materials will have the opportunity to be set ablaze by the area's high local population of transient and homeless crack addicts.