I-85 bridge near Piedmont Rd Collapses. (Atlanta, Lawrenceville: purchase, relocate to, expenses)

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Hard to throw them under the bus when they've burned down the bridge that the buses were going to be driving on.

Easy when you hand them a powder keg and declare, "Hope you don't blow this up, but if you do, it's not my fault!"

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by cqholt

So what happens after improper storage of combustible material under a freeway viaduct causes the freeway to collapse? You give the boss a $100K/year rise.

Georgia official may get big pension boost to go with raise

Interesting, he makes alot less than I thought.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

Easy when you hand them a powder keg and declare, "Hope you don't blow this up, but if you do, it's not my fault!"

Hardly a powder keg. Has anyone actually shown where this is the fault of GDOT through not following correct procedures? Can someone actually point that out to me?

No, PVC isn't usually considered flammable given its high combustion heat. Are we to think that they are supposed to be able to plan not just for trespassers, but for those trespassers to then burn furniture?

At what point do we stop that expectation? What about vehicles or other facilities under highways? Cars can burn pretty good, and truck fires under highways have lead to collapse. Are we to not store anything under these spaces in the off chance that someone comes along and sets fire to a couch there?

Please.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Hardly a powder keg. Has anyone actually shown where this is the fault of GDOT through not following correct procedures? Can someone actually point that out to me?

No, PVC isn't usually considered flammable given its high combustion heat. Are we to think that they are supposed to be able to plan not just for trespassers, but for those trespassers to then burn furniture?

Yes, especially now that we have some hindsight.

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

At what point do we stop that expectation? What about vehicles or other facilities under highways? Cars can burn pretty good, and truck fires under highways have lead to collapse. Are we to not store anything under these spaces in the off chance that someone comes along and sets fire to a couch there?

Please.

Not a bad idea. But what's that compared to saving a few $$$ by storing construction materials in an unsecured area on the off chance it may cause a holocaust that results in a $17M loss? Sound logic.

[jsvh]

Almost a repeat: https://www.11alive.com/video/news/l...f-04c4f25a4a79

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Almost a repeat: https://www.11alive.com/video/news/l...f-04c4f25a4a79

Whats the deal with that section of I-85 being so flammable.

As a side note I kind of doubt that fire would be enough to collapse the bridge. The previous one which was much much much worse - but structural damage? possibly.

Still however one can't help but mention how incredibly fragile and dependent the transportation network is on that road and should something happen to it how much disruption and chaos it causes.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Whats the deal with that section of I-85 being so flammable.

As a side note I kind of doubt that fire would be enough to collapse the bridge. The previous one which was much much much worse - but structural damage? possibly.

Still however one can't help but mention how incredibly fragile and dependent the transportation network is on that road and should something happen to it how much disruption and chaos it causes.

And yet when it collapsed, life did not stop. People adjusted and continued on with life. Goes to show that freeway removal will not lead to a collapse of a city.

[Atlanta Scientist]

Originally Posted by cqholt

And yet when it collapsed, life did not stop. People adjusted and continued on with life. Goes to show that freeway removal will not lead to a collapse of a city.

Atlanta lacks a good network of arterial roads. When the bridge collapsed, my neighborhood was overrun with people trying to get into Midtown. It was kind of great because it slowed people down but I understand the frustration of people who choose to or have to drive exclusively.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by Atlanta Scientist

Atlanta lacks a good network of arterial roads. When the bridge collapsed, my neighborhood was overrun with people trying to get into Midtown. It was kind of great because it slowed people down but I understand the frustration of people who choose to or have to drive exclusively.

I have little sympathy for the bolded (and I was one of those affected by the I-85 collapse that did drive voluntarily).

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by Atlanta Scientist

Atlanta lacks a good network of arterial roads. When the bridge collapsed, my neighborhood was overrun with people trying to get into Midtown. It was kind of great because it slowed people down but I understand the frustration of people who choose to or have to drive exclusively.

Yes, neighborhoods and residents were unfortunately impacted, thanks Waze!