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View Poll Results: NW or NE for the best play to live north of Atlanta?
NE 20 68.97%
NW 9 31.03%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-28-2017, 06:35 PM
 
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I see the polls are leaning towards NE @ 64.71% verses NW @ 35.29%.

Why do you think that is?
I am assuming this is so because 1) the NE corridor is more populated and perhaps a bigger known quantity by City-Data people, and 2) the NE corridor is wealthier than the NW corridor (making it more attractive). Also, this is a big assumption, but in my experience on City-Data, posters tend to lean more to the left politically and since the NE leans slightly more to the left than the NW as previously pointed-out by another poster, that could affect the poll numbers. That is just my personal assumption so I could be wrong.

I live in the NW and my experience is the traffic here is not as bad as the NE perhaps because of a lower overall population and commercialism. Both areas are highly commercialized but I think NE edges out the NW in that regard. Personally I prefer the NW as I am more familiar with it, the traffic while bad isn't *as* bad, and it is more affordable but still has good amenities, communities, and access to job centers.

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Old 06-28-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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Check out Acworth. Homes in the Harrison H.S. district are in nice communities, at a range of prices that you could pick and choose from.

I'm a little amused at the perception of Johns Creek as "keeping up with the Jones". There are several nice communities that feed into Northview H.S. -- not in the $250s, but certainly not all in the million dollar range.

Having put two kids through a private religious school from K-12, I would strongly suggest that you find a SCHOOL that you like, and THEN start looking within a 15-20 minute radius of the school. Otherwise, you'll be on the road for every event, every sporting event, every carpool . . . and that will take a bite out of your family life. You've already said that you won't be using the public schools, so giving that much weight to a choice of location for your home will keep you from looking at other options. The area around Suwanee, etc. is growing exponentially, so keeping the same house for 10-15 years would probably result in equity growth.
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:36 AM
 
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I am assuming this is so because 1) the NE corridor is more populated and perhaps a bigger known quantity by City-Data people, and 2) the NE corridor is wealthier than the NW corridor (making it more attractive). Also, this is a big assumption, but in my experience on City-Data, posters tend to lean more to the left politically and since the NE leans slightly more to the left than the NW as previously pointed-out by another poster, that could affect the poll numbers. That is just my personal assumption so I could be wrong.

I live in the NW and my experience is the traffic here is not as bad as the NE perhaps because of a lower overall population and commercialism. Both areas are highly commercialized but I think NE edges out the NW in that regard. Personally I prefer the NW as I am more familiar with it, the traffic while bad isn't *as* bad, and it is more affordable but still has good amenities, communities, and access to job centers.
Thank you for this information. I can definitely see your point. I do like the NW side better.

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Check out Acworth. Homes in the Harrison H.S. district are in nice communities, at a range of prices that you could pick and choose from.

I'm a little amused at the perception of Johns Creek as "keeping up with the Jones". There are several nice communities that feed into Northview H.S. -- not in the $250s, but certainly not all in the million dollar range.

Having put two kids through a private religious school from K-12, I would strongly suggest that you find a SCHOOL that you like, and THEN start looking within a 15-20 minute radius of the school. Otherwise, you'll be on the road for every event, every sporting event, every carpool . . . and that will take a bite out of your family life. You've already said that you won't be using the public schools, so giving that much weight to a choice of location for your home will keep you from looking at other options. The area around Suwanee, etc. is growing exponentially, so keeping the same house for 10-15 years would probably result in equity growth.
Thank you for this valuable information. I like Northpoint Church. They have one in Woodstock and Sugar Hill. So I could go either way. You make a great point about the schools and location.

It would be incredible if I could be 15 minutes from an Amazing Christian School and 15 minutes from one of the campuses of Northpoint Community Church. I could be in that spot for 30 years!

May I ask which Christian School your children went to?

Also what locations do you recommend for my dream senerio?
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Old 06-30-2017, 11:19 PM
 
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Thank you for this valuable information. I like Northpoint Church. They have one in Woodstock and Sugar Hill. So I could go either way. You make a great point about the schools and location.

It would be incredible if I could be 15 minutes from an Amazing Christian School and 15 minutes from one of the campuses of Northpoint Community Church. I could be in that spot for 30 years!

May I ask which Christian School your children went to?
To be honest, I don't really want to discuss it on a public board. We were happy there, and my kids received an excellent education in an environment that supported our family's faith practices, and both attended universities (instate and out of state) with almost full scholarships. It's been 10 years since I was a parent there, and I am not familiar with it's offerings at this time. Plus, I learned that it really depends on the child -- if you have a child heavy in the arts, you'll find some schools are more geared towards athletics. Or if you have a child geared towards athletics, you might find a school too small to compete with other schools and with limited coaching. There are several small schools, a fewer bigger schools. Some schools emphasize academic excellence, with many AP offerings; others' AP offerings are standard, with fewer options. Some schools were active in the community, others less so. It really just depends on what is important to your family, and what is a good fit for your child. My kid's school tended to be conservative in its doctrine; I wished it had had more offerings in terms of comparative religions. We had some interesting conversations at home, discussing what was taught in religious classes and how our own faith's interpretation of these teachings differed.

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Also what locations do you recommend for my dream senerio?
I'd start visiting schools. There are a multitude of private schools in Atlanta -- at the North Point campus, Holy Redeemer, Pinecrest, Wesleyan, Atlanta Country Day, Blessed Trinity, etc., etc. plus more if you have special needs or are more interested in teaching philosophies such as Montessori, etc. Over by Woodstock, you have Mt. Paran, Cornerstone Prep, Woodstock Day School, etc. The application process for most private schools in the Atlanta area belonging to the Atlanta Area Association of Independent Schools wraps up in January/early February, with acceptances mailed out the first weekend in April.
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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For Christian schools near Woodstock--my two favorites (and they aren't that close to Woodstock but they have good academics) are both university model schools (children go 3-ish days a week). They are Cornerstone Prep in Acworth and Johnson Ferry Christian Academy in East Cobb.

Other respected Christian schools in the metro include Wesleyan, Whitefield, Greater Atlanta Christian School, Intown Community School, Heritage Prep, Heritage School (Newnan), Mount Vernon Presbyterian School (Sandy Springs), and the Westminster Schools. These vary in their religiosity and approaches to learning, but they (in addition to the Catholic schools which I did not list) have the best academics, imho.
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:53 PM
 
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I'm biased, but I think you should still consider Peachtree City as well. If you cover the entire state for your job, Peachtree City may be a little more centrally located vs. the northside. There are also great public schools, an incredible sense of community, and of course the 100 miles of golf cart paths that connect schools, churches, parks, and shopping areas. Also, Kids can drive golf carts starting at 12 with parental supervision, and solo at 15. Most kids drive golf carts to the local high schools (McIntosh & Starr's Mill) which can save you from paying for car insurance for a couple of years.

There are several great Churches here and Landmark Christian school has an elementary school campus in PTC at Southside Church which is affiliated with Northpoint Church.
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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I'm biased, but I think you should still consider Peachtree City as well. If you cover the entire state for your job, Peachtree City may be a little more centrally located vs. the northside. There are also great public schools, an incredible sense of community, and of course the 100 miles of golf cart paths that connect schools, churches, parks, and shopping areas. Also, Kids can drive golf carts starting at 12 with parental supervision, and solo at 15. Most kids drive golf carts to the local high schools (McIntosh & Starr's Mill) which can save you from paying for car insurance for a couple of years.

There are several great Churches here and Landmark Christian school has an elementary school campus in PTC at Southside Church which is affiliated with Northpoint Church.
I second this, PTC Dad. He can find homes in his price range, and he didn't like the crowded feel of the northside. Definitely worth checking out the southside, Peachtree City areas. Great public schools or he could drive to Heritage School in Newnan or Woodward Academy in College Park. Great quality of life with the golf cart paths and sense of community.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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To be honest, I don't really want to discuss it on a public board. We were happy there, and my kids received an excellent education in an environment that supported our family's faith practices, and both attended universities (instate and out of state) with almost full scholarships. It's been 10 years since I was a parent there, and I am not familiar with it's offerings at this time. Plus, I learned that it really depends on the child -- if you have a child heavy in the arts, you'll find some schools are more geared towards athletics. Or if you have a child geared towards athletics, you might find a school too small to compete with other schools and with limited coaching. There are several small schools, a fewer bigger schools. Some schools emphasize academic excellence, with many AP offerings; others' AP offerings are standard, with fewer options. Some schools were active in the community, others less so. It really just depends on what is important to your family, and what is a good fit for your child. My kid's school tended to be conservative in its doctrine; I wished it had had more offerings in terms of comparative religions. We had some interesting conversations at home, discussing what was taught in religious classes and how our own faith's interpretation of these teachings differed.

I'd start visiting schools. There are a multitude of private schools in Atlanta -- at the North Point campus, Holy Redeemer, Pinecrest, Wesleyan, Atlanta Country Day, Blessed Trinity, etc., etc. plus more if you have special needs or are more interested in teaching philosophies such as Montessori, etc. Over by Woodstock, you have Mt. Paran, Cornerstone Prep, Woodstock Day School, etc. The application process for most private schools in the Atlanta area belonging to the Atlanta Area Association of Independent Schools wraps up in January/early February, with acceptances mailed out the first weekend in April.
I completely understand. Thank you for the insight though. You could always private message me if you want.

I am worried that private schools don't offer all that public schools do in regards to sports, extra activities, etc... However, I am more concerned with their heart and belief system.

Yes I am mainly the leader in my family so it is pretty much all up to me. I do really want to live close to a good school and church.

Thanks for some of the suggestions!

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For Christian schools near Woodstock--my two favorites (and they aren't that close to Woodstock but they have good academics) are both university model schools (children go 3-ish days a week). They are Cornerstone Prep in Acworth and Johnson Ferry Christian Academy in East Cobb.

Other respected Christian schools in the metro include Wesleyan, Whitefield, Greater Atlanta Christian School, Intown Community School, Heritage Prep, Heritage School (Newnan), Mount Vernon Presbyterian School (Sandy Springs), and the Westminster Schools. These vary in their religiosity and approaches to learning, but they (in addition to the Catholic schools which I did not list) have the best academics, imho.
I do like Johnson Ferry Church, have been there a lot. Definitely consider that. My only problem with 3 day a week schools is that a lot of work is taught at home and we are not that smart.

I will definitely have to look at these as well. Thanks for the suggestions.

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I'm biased, but I think you should still consider Peachtree City as well. If you cover the entire state for your job, Peachtree City may be a little more centrally located vs. the northside. There are also great public schools, an incredible sense of community, and of course the 100 miles of golf cart paths that connect schools, churches, parks, and shopping areas. Also, Kids can drive golf carts starting at 12 with parental supervision, and solo at 15. Most kids drive golf carts to the local high schools (McIntosh & Starr's Mill) which can save you from paying for car insurance for a couple of years.

There are several great Churches here and Landmark Christian school has an elementary school campus in PTC at Southside Church which is affiliated with Northpoint Church.
You know what, I did mention early in my post that I am open to all suggestions because I drive all over Georgia and it doesn't really matter. My wife is probably going to quit her job so we are good to go.

I did consider Peachtree City a long time ago. I think the reason why I changed my mind is that I read something about everyone with class was moving north and that south of Atlanta was going to crap. Not sure if any of this is true or not but I do like Preachtree City and love the concept. I think it made it on the top 10 or top 100 places to live in America at one point as well.

Will definitely re-look at Peachtree City and Newnan! Great prices and great all around value. If there are good private schools in the area it might be a win/win. My only concern is about the Churches though.

I really like Andy Stanley at Northpoint, Johnny Hunt at Woodstock, and good consider First Baptist of Atlanta. Not really sure down south.

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I second this, PTC Dad. He can find homes in his price range, and he didn't like the crowded feel of the northside. Definitely worth checking out the southside, Peachtree City areas. Great public schools or he could drive to Heritage School in Newnan or Woodward Academy in College Park. Great quality of life with the golf cart paths and sense of community.
I really like the public of the two of you are offering.

I definitely hate the crowded fell, but I keep asking myself, why is it so crowded. Everyone must be wanting to move up north for a reason. Is the south going down? Is north is where it is at? I heard that the north is going to get an arch soon of highways which is going to blow that area up.

Even considering everything I might still go south for the best value. I can't see myself buying a 400-500K house when prices are extremely high, getting ripped off, and then the economy tanks just like it did in 2011 and Atlanta was one of the number 1 areas for foreclosures and many, many people were losing their homes. I would rather buy smart then buy to much house. Newnan or Peacthree city would offer the smartest economical buy.
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I completely understand. Thank you for the insight though. You could always private message me if you want.

I am worried that private schools don't offer all that public schools do in regards to sports, extra activities, etc... However, I am more concerned with their heart and belief system.

Yes I am mainly the leader in my family so it is pretty much all up to me. I do really want to live close to a good school and church.

Thanks for some of the suggestions!



I do like Johnson Ferry Church, have been there a lot. Definitely consider that. My only problem with 3 day a week schools is that a lot of work is taught at home and we are not that smart.

I will definitely have to look at these as well. Thanks for the suggestions.



You know what, I did mention early in my post that I am open to all suggestions because I drive all over Georgia and it doesn't really matter. My wife is probably going to quit her job so we are good to go.

I did consider Peachtree City a long time ago. I think the reason why I changed my mind is that I read something about everyone with class was moving north and that south of Atlanta was going to crap. Not sure if any of this is true or not but I do like Preachtree City and love the concept. I think it made it on the top 10 or top 100 places to live in America at one point as well.

Will definitely re-look at Peachtree City and Newnan! Great prices and great all around value. If there are good private schools in the area it might be a win/win. My only concern is about the Churches though.

I really like Andy Stanley at Northpoint, Johnny Hunt at Woodstock, and good consider First Baptist of Atlanta. Not really sure down south.



I really like the public of the two of you are offering.

I definitely hate the crowded fell, but I keep asking myself, why is it so crowded. Everyone must be wanting to move up north for a reason. Is the south going down? Is north is where it is at? I heard that the north is going to get an arch soon of highways which is going to blow that area up.

Even considering everything I might still go south for the best value. I can't see myself buying a 400-500K house when prices are extremely high, getting ripped off, and then the economy tanks just like it did in 2011 and Atlanta was one of the number 1 areas for foreclosures and many, many people were losing their homes. I would rather buy smart then buy to much house. Newnan or Peacthree city would offer the smartest economical buy.
Two really important things to touch on from your comments...

1) It is not that the Southern suburbs of Atlanta are "going down" or are "going to crap" that is the reason that more people move to the Northern suburbs than the Southern suburbs.

The reason why more people move to the Northside than the Southside is just simply because there is much more development (housing, jobs, employment, industry, shopping, schools, etc) on the Northside than on the Southside.

Because of the combination of the water supply (in the form of lakes Lanier (on the N/NE side) and Allatoona (on the NW side)) and the mountains being located north of the city, Atlanta's metropolitan development patterns have traditionally tilted extremely heavily towards the north during the last seven decades or so of the post-World War II era....Which is one of the major reasons why the north side of the Atlanta metro area is so crowded with people and traffic today.

The Northside may have much more people, development and traffic, but the Southside has many great areas as well where the quality-of-life is every bit as good (if not better in some respects) than the more-crowded Northside.


2) You keep talking about a "Northern Arch" of highways about to be built through the Northern suburbs....Something which sounds like you are talking about the erstwhile "Northern Arc" superhighway which was proposed to be built through Gwinnett, Forsyth and Cherokee counties back in the late 1990's and early 2000's.

The Northern Arc was an extremely controversial superhighway construction proposal which was officially cancelled by Georgia state government back in 2003 because of the superhighway proposal's growing widespread unpopularity with the Metro Atlanta/North Georgia public.

Two of the Northside outer-suburban counties that you are strongly considering moving to, Forsyth and Cherokee counties, actually played a leading role in successfully opposing and defeating the increasingly unpopular road by intentionally permitting development directly in the path of the proposed superhighway.

Because the construction of the road was officially cancelled more than 14 years ago and because just the mere mention of the name of the unpopular road project remains highly controversial in many circles (particularly on the Northside where opposition to the road was strongest), the Northern Arc is nothing to worry about and should NOT figure into or negatively affect your desires to move to the Northside should you decide to do so.

The Northern Arc is a non-factor at this point in time and has been a non-factor for the last 14 years.

There has been some occasional talk of building the road farther out to the north from Atlanta (about 30-50 miles north of where the road was proposed to be built back in the late 1990's and early 2000's), but local landowners, residents and regional and national environmental groups are loathe to allow something like that to be built that they fear would encourage even more encroachment of development on the North Georgia Mountains.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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I did consider Peachtree City a long time ago. I think the reason why I changed my mind is that I read something about everyone with class was moving north and that south of Atlanta was going to crap. Not sure if any of this is true or not but I do like Preachtree City and love the concept. I think it made it on the top 10 or top 100 places to live in America at one point as well.

Will definitely re-look at Peachtree City and Newnan! Great prices and great all around value. If there are good private schools in the area it might be a win/win. My only concern is about the Churches though.

I really like Andy Stanley at Northpoint, Johnny Hunt at Woodstock, and good consider First Baptist of Atlanta. Not really sure down south.
Southside Church-Peachtree City is a strategic partner of Northpoint Ministries. Andy Stanley is the "primary communicator" meaning that most Sundays will feature Andy giving a sermon live through video feed or taped, and it has its own pastor as well.

Personally, I kinda shudder when I hear the phrase "people with class" or "classy" --makes me think of overpriced handbags and plastic surgery. However, if you mean people with good values--you will find them throughout the metro. Peachtree City is one place that is especially family/career oriented, as well as many other areas of the southside and northside.
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